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Woolworths must withdraw 'blacks only' job ad - Solidarity

Dirk Hermann
04 September 2012

Dirk Hermann says company's interpretation of EEA is both legally and morally wrong

Woolworths positions must be open to all race groups - Solidarity

Trade union Solidarity will tomorrow at noon start a public campaign against Woolworths if the group does not withdraw job advertisements for which only black candidates will be considered. The campaign will be conducted mainly via social media.

In a letter sent to Woolworths today, Solidarity demands that the group amend advertisements for positions which are only available to "African Blacks" or "to Africans, Coloureds and Indians only" so that people of all race groups will be considered for the positions. Dirk Hermann, Solidarity's Deputy General Secretary, demanded in his letter to Woolworths that the group amend the advertisements before noon on Wednesday. Hermann informed Woolworths that the group is not correct in its implementation of the Employment Equity Act, and that its implementation amounts to unfair discrimination.

"The Employment Equity Act does not make provision for the exclusion of any race as far as applications are concerned. The current advertisements amount to an absolute quota, which the Act explicitly prohibits. The trade union has appealed to Woolworths to revisit its internal affirmative action policy to ensure that it does not discriminate unfairly against current or prospective employees of any race." According to Solidarity, the Act does not allow such discrimination, nor will public opinion tolerate such discrimination.

Text of letter from Dirk Hermann, Deputy General Secretary, Solidarity, to Ian Moor, CEO Woolworths Holdings Limited, September 4 2012:

URGENT

4 September 2012 
Mr. Ian Moir 
Chief Executive Officer 
Woolworths Holdings Limited 
and to 

Mr. Mark van Buuren 
Woolworths Legal Advisor 

Dear Sir, 

UNFAIR EXCLUSION OF CANDIDATES BASED ON RACE 

The above matter refers. 

We place the following on record: 

1. Following a public outcry aimed at Woolworths' selection criteria for certain advertised positions, Woolworths made a media statement setting out its position with regards thereto. We quote the following section thereof: 

"Like all South African companies, Woolworths has a role to play in transformation. For this reason, SOME positions (where there is under- representation) are designated for EE groups.

The designated groups are Blacks, Coloureds, Indians, women and people with disability.

As per the Employment Equity Act of 1998, Woolworths is expected, like all SA companies with more than 50 employees, to plan our work force by race, gender and disability.

Our workforce is diverse and includes people of all races (Black, White, Coloured, Indian), gender and disability."

2. We have in our posession at least one advertisement for a vacant position in Woolworths, exclusively designated for African black candidates. In this regard we attach the advert details for the position of Divisional Visual Merchandise Manager: Marketing - Head Office hereto.

3. From the contents of this advertisement it is clear that White, Coloured and Indian applicants are barred from applying for this position as the same is already designated for an African black candidate.

4. Woolworths' interpretation of the Employment Equity Act, as set out in the quoted section from its statement above, is both legally and morally wrong.

5. Contrary to Woolworths' application of affirmative action, the Employment Equity Act, in section 15 (3) thereof, states that affirmative action measures include preferential treatment and numerical goals, but excludes quotas.

6. The practice of Woolworths excluding candidates from certain races from applying for vacant position, is nothing else than quotas. This setting of an absolute barrier on the basis of race constitutes unfair discrimination.

7. We contend that this application of affirmative action is not sanctioned by the Employment Equity Act. 

8. Besides what is stated in the preceding paragraph, we are of the opinion that Woolworths will also be found guilty in the court of public opinion on account of its recruitment and selection process as described above.

9. In view of the aforesaid we request the following from Woolworths:

9.1 That Woolworths withdraw the advertisement attached hereto and mentioned in the preceding paragraphs before 12 pm on Wednesday, 5 September 2012 and ensure that the advertisement is amended so that candidates from all races are allowed to apply.

9.2 In addition hereto we request that all other positions that are currently advertised within Woolworths are screened to ensure and amended, if necessary, to ensure that candidates from all race groups are allowed to apply. In regard to this request we received written confirmation of Woolworths' actions in this regard by 12 pm on Wednesday, 5 September 2012.

10. We herewith place on record that, should Woolworths choose not to respond favourably to our requests mentioned above, Solidarity will launch a full scale campaign against Woolworths to mobilise public opinion and pressure in order to ensure that Woolworths adhere to these requests.

We await your most urgent reply.

DIRK HERMANN 
DEPUTY GENERAL SECRETARY: SOLIDARITY

 

Statement issued by Dirk Hermann, Deputy General Secretary: Solidarity, September 4 2012

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Customers
Well the customers know what to do...or what to not do at Woolworths...

by . on September 04 2012, 18:57
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Why is this a problem?
Do we have AA, EE or whatever laws or not? If we have them, then companies must hire people from the correct racial groups to meet their quotas.

If the problem is that the laws exist, then why give Woolworth's a hard time? If the problem is that . .more

by Anon on September 04 2012, 19:06
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Yes, Anon, obeying the law..
Woolworths is welcome to obey the law. That is, the new apartheid laws, where white job reservation has been changed with black job reservation.

Do you remember that little word "boycott" from the "struggle" years, Anon?

Come on Whites . .more

by James on September 04 2012, 19:19
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They have all cut in the ANC elite with Black Racist BEE policies
So the only hope you have of justice is the Constitutional Court

by Lyndall Beddy on September 04 2012, 19:33
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Anon
We do indeed have AA and EE laws. Neither specifies quotas as the article said-- don't you bother to read before you rant?

by Carlf on September 04 2012, 19:37
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A question or two
Will there be a bench in the WW staff room marked " For Blacks only"
"Alleen nie-blankes"?
And will it be painted green?
And will it be uncomfortable enough to catch the 4th vertebra?
Will a pencil be used in vetting job applicants? I . .more

by Cassandra on September 04 2012, 19:43
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Pipe down Solidarity
Why must I waste my time interviewing white people when I know I cannot hire them in order to meet my required BBBEE score? I simply son't have the time for it. If we find absolutely nobody capable of filling this job, we will readvertise to include other . .more

by Sympathy to Woolworths on September 04 2012, 19:47
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@ Cassandra and Sympathy with Woolworths
Leave the arguments. It won't help. It is MUCH easier than this.

In the USA a chicken outlet recently almost got closed because of their views on homosexuality.

TAKE A QUE PEOPLE!

Just don't buy from Woolworths anymore. Easy . .more

by James on September 04 2012, 20:51
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@james
If you have evidence that WW sells homosexual chickens then you should bring this to the attention of the Minister of Agriculture because she will certainly insist that WW must give equal shelf space to chickens of all sexual orientation.
She might . .more

by . on September 04 2012, 21:22
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Whites should stick together
Do not support black owned companies and employ whites only. Why not? Forget the government tenders.

by Time on September 04 2012, 21:47
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Homosexual cheeken
@. Where can I find these chickens. I want to make party time with these things

by Mute fool _makhoya on September 04 2012, 21:51
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Employment W.W
Woolies talk about ee but they know that they got issues with their employees.
Now they are retrenching their full time worker or giving them what they call voluntery packeges at the minimun cost.We talk about potential workers also turning
them . .more

by E.E on September 04 2012, 22:10
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WW
1) I won't leave Woolies, and most people won't - there are no other stores that compare and I would have emigrated were it not for Woolworths and Discovery (they let me keep up the 1st world feeling in this 3rd world sh!thole)
2) Woolies might take . .more

by John on September 05 2012, 02:33
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By . on September 4 2012, 21:22
Fakester.

by . on September 05 2012, 03:53
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Solidarity should go further
Even if WW changes the wording of its RACIST ads, they will simply not appoint a white person. I suggest that Solidarity tests this by submitting white and black CVs for the same position and see who gets invited to an interview.

As for me, it's . .more

by Boer on September 05 2012, 07:29
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Woolwoths only gives employment to "black " Africans
Yes Woolworth appoints only Black Africans >>>>and you can see it when you shop at Woolworth>>>So I wonder what would happen if
Checkers, P&Pay would only advertise for Coloured , Indian and white . .more

by A. Mphuti on September 05 2012, 07:53
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Bantuheid is here to stay - Get used to it...
Or at least until the misruling party voting fodder can compete with other groups on an equal footing, which say "racist jokers" affirm that it will only happen when Jesus comes...
Other "nasties" claim that it will only be a reality when the some . .more

by Injala Apera on September 05 2012, 08:00
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Woollies - ANC lapdogs
Woollies seem happy to act as kapo's for the ANC's race based laws don't just not buy from them. Fill a trolley with frozen and refrigerated food then leave it at the till without paying saying, if you like, that it's in protest.

by Herman Hanson on September 05 2012, 08:03
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Bluf julself
Solidariteit moet liewer sy energie fokus op die verwydering van diskriminasie deur die Regering. Na 18 jaar van regstellende gemors behoort die beste kandidaat aangestel te word. Tans is dit nie die geval nie en as Woolworths 'n swarte soek is hulle ten . .more

by Jannie on September 05 2012, 08:07
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Why single out Woolworths?
Some examples of what I found in the careers section of a local newspaper this morning:

"For this position, we are particularly seeking to attract South African females and Black African South African males only" - for IT Helpdesk . .more

by Honest Citizen on September 05 2012, 08:18
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@ Jannie
Absolutely.

by Honest Citizen on September 05 2012, 08:28
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Et tu Woolies
In the early 90's, Harvard University was already using exclusive racist labelling to bar South African whites from applying for scholarships etc. Woolies is just obeying the racist laws of the day, but it still leaves a sour taste. The point is, for how . .more

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 08:32
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Woolies EE
This is all about the misinterpretation of the Employment Equity Act. There seems to be a lack of skills in the Woolies human resource department.

by Pieter on September 05 2012, 08:45
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@ Argus Eye
But then you must be consistent and boycott all the other companies who have to comply with the same Affirmative Action law - but then when do you start?

by Honest Citizen on September 05 2012, 09:04
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Arrogant replies from black racists
It is amazing the amount of arrogant replies from what seems to be black people. It is obvious that these people have no intention of ever sharing this country with whites and I have a strong feeling that all these freedom fighter types like never had . .more

by Donkervlie on September 05 2012, 09:15
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Woolies
I agree we must boycott them,
Now to get this pass my wife

by Johan J on September 05 2012, 09:21
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@ Donkerville
Sigh...Did Woolworths make the law, or are they complying with the law? Are you also going to boycott all other companies who comply with the Affirmative Action law?

by Honest Citizen on September 05 2012, 09:22
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Be realistic
In a society whose policies are exclusionary and race based one has to be selective in fighting racism and boycott in high profile cases where it will have most impact. During apartheid, ANC members still bought at "white-owned" shops and used facilities . .more

by @ Honest Citizen on September 05 2012, 09:25
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Be realistic
Sorry that was by Argus eye.

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 09:26
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WW
Join us at https://www.facebook.com/noworths?ref=ts to uphold your disdain at this appalling policy held by a company loved and supported by the majority of whites in SA over many years. This is so distressing!

by monique on September 05 2012, 09:31
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@ Honest Citizen: Time limit
@ Honest Citizen

I think most people realise the need to redress the imbalances of the past, but I think most people also realise deep down that the ANC's policies (possibly well meant at first) have been thoroughly corrupted for purposes of . .more

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 09:40
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GM Labeling
Hi
Woolies dragged their feet with regards to the GM Labeling of all goods sold in their stores blaming suppliers and the likes. It was THIER requirement and after a year it is still not good. They stated that it was too expensive to implement. . .more

by Rob on September 05 2012, 09:53
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BOYCOTT IS THE ACTIVE WORD AND ACTION.
PEOPLE MUST BE HIRED ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS,ABILITY AND CAPABILITY NOT BY RACE COLOUR CREED OR SEX.THE BEST MAN OR WOMAN FOR THE THE JOB.

This would and should then alleviate the customer service and service delivery issues we are experiencing . .more

by Befair on September 05 2012, 09:58
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Woolies debacle
So what else is new? Whites in this country are being forced into poverty.
The real meaning of the words 'We demand white wealth" will be made abundantly clear in the very near future. Read a book entitled 'Words of a prophet 'by Adraan Snyman to get . .more

by Dr Roger Powell on September 05 2012, 10:04
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@ Anon
Anon, the law DISALLOWS any rigid quotas. Therefore, Woolworths is NOT obeying the law.

Also, you're making a mistake if you equate legality and morality. Something can be legally right but morally wrong.

by John on September 05 2012, 10:10
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Woolworths
Woolworths might have not made the law - that is the priviledge of their corrupt, racist and incompetent masters, the ANC, but their blatant racism certainly hasn't done anything to build bridges in this sad and unfortunate land. Aren't we lucky, here in . .more

by Rocker on September 05 2012, 10:48
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The Capitalists are all Gutless!
They are petrified of the Black racist ANC!

by Lyndall Beddy on September 05 2012, 10:56
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Black Racists have Double Standards
Screaming for MINORITY protection in America, the UK and Europe - AND screaming for MAJORITY rights to disadvantage Minority Whites and Indians in Africa!

by Lyndall Beddy on September 05 2012, 11:01
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I support EE
Lets look at the broader picture.
90% of the population of SA is made up of people of colour(Africans,Coloured & Indians)
Abt 9.8% are whites. The question is shouldnt that be represented in all companies? Shouldnt be 90% of all companies b made . .more

by Debug on September 05 2012, 11:07
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I support EE
For your information, those who think Woolies's customer base is more whites than blacks are fooling themselves.
Trust me you are fooling yourselves, Woolies is realising that most of their customber based is from the black middle class.They are only . .more

by Debug on September 05 2012, 11:16
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LOL
I will make an assumption (I admit it is an assumption) that all the white people commenting here have a job.

To me it seems that white people believe that everytime a black person gets a job over a white person then the best person for the . .more

by Warren on September 05 2012, 11:27
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I believe in IE (Integrity Employment) - Did so even before 1994 change
Both the AA & EE Act is based on lip service. Experience and Qualification should not be the second criteria. Pre and Post 1994 political change, employment of any person was not based on their individual integrity. The best predictor for the future is . .more

by Picassi on September 05 2012, 11:47
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Good
Why do you guys not contact ex employees and find out why they left this company. You might be surprised what you find.


by Anon on September 05 2012, 12:14
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@ Warren
As long as race-based laws prevail, of course there will always be assumptions (rightly or wrongly) that blacks got the job because of colour - those assumptions would not be unreasonable when policies are skewed in favour of "non-whites" (to use old Nat . .more

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 12:17
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@ Sympathy with Woolworths
The word is spreading, my inbox is being flooded with friends, colleagues, business contacts from all over the country who urge me to stop buying at Woolies. And indeed, I have no intention of buying at Woolworths as long as they stick to such racism. I'm . .more

by Theresa Papenfus on September 05 2012, 13:15
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Woolworths employing white staff
I shop at many woolworths outlets and never see any white staff (unless they hidden away behind the counters etc). I have always wondered why the front line staff do not represent the shoppers (mainly white).

by CC on September 05 2012, 13:34
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@by Honest Citizen on September 05
POINT TAKEN HONEST CITIZEN.!!!!!!!!

The problem is the LAW with which large buinesses are forced to comply with. I CAN SEE IN TIME TO COME>>Coloured, Indians , Chineese & wihte South Africans have to concider their own . .more

by A. Mphuti on September 05 2012, 14:15
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will not stop shopping at woolie
Many ads ask for bilungual peeps in english and afrikaans to intentionally exclude black africans.

by oho on September 05 2012, 14:19
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@ oho
My local Woolies is entirely black staffed and is excellent - so they certainly haven't been excluded there on linguistic grounds. But I've never heard of employers asking whether potential candidates have one or two "lungs". Must be a new requirement!

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 14:42
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exclusion on the basis of race
I suppose I must ask the difficult question:

How many of you saying that you intend to boycott Woolworths over this advertisement did the same during the Apartheid years? Did you boycott the 'whites only' schools & universities, theaters, . .more

by anti-hypocrisy on September 05 2012, 15:03
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@Argus Eye
the problem with many bi "lunged" whites is that even if they have, they cant stand to see africans get anything

by Oho on September 05 2012, 15:28
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@ anti-hypocrisy
Of course anti-hypocrisy is smugly assuming that contributors here did not oppose apartheid in any way. Well, you don't know that. One could also ask the rhetorical question about how many anti-apartheid activists handed back their degrees and . .more

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 15:36
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hiding
Racism is only caused by today’s youth. Its past tense, and thing that all non-whites should really stop to hide behind this racism “thing” it’s becoming racism towards us whites.

by Anon on September 05 2012, 15:49
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Woolies boycott
Whites need to get used to the idea that they constitute only 10% of the population of SA.This means that proportionally employers should reflect the same in employment numbers.Those who advocate boycotting WW will not achieve any meaningful impact on . .more

by Mdizman on September 05 2012, 16:12
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@Mdizman
You yourself say that there should be proportionally 10% of whites working in Woolies. Well that clearly isn't the case in the Woolies I frequent, which are 100% black staff operated - all perfectly charming and efficient. Where I differ with you, and . .more

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 16:33
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Black employment
Why does Mr Ian Moir not give up his position to a black person?


by Basil van Aswegen on September 05 2012, 18:05
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@Oho
Oh ho ho ho ho. I see the censor came to your rescue and pulled my very mild reply. Talk about uneven playing fields!

by Argus Eye on September 05 2012, 19:25
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Woolworths
Advertising discriminating on race, colour, creed or sex should not be allowed. Any position should be filled by whoever has the right qualifications and disposition for the job! You disappoint me Woolworths!

by Diane on September 05 2012, 19:45
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Employees
I am sure WW employs a disproportionate number of muslims in their Cape Town stores. They make up about 5% of the population, and seem to occupy about 50% of the staff positions. You can't even buy a pork sausage roll in their food stores.
Also I see . .more

by Jeff on September 05 2012, 21:54
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WOOOLLLIES
Shame on you poepols

by South African on September 06 2012, 07:45
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Racial Issue
Sent this letter to custserv@woolworths.co.za. No reply as yet:

As a loyal customer, I hereby want to notify you that I am very dissatisfied with your positioning regarding the whole BEE issue.

First you excluded everybody except . .more

by Dreban on September 06 2012, 09:23
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Capitalists Bribed the ANC Tribal Chiefs under the disguise of BEE
How did Patrice, Cyril and Tokyo becoming multi -billionaires benefit 'the people"?

I bet when they distributed Sasol shares they copied the Board of Executors - who gave 25 percent of shares to "staff" when they listed - which meant 20 percent . .more

by Lyndall Beddy on September 06 2012, 09:40
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To the ignorant Argus Eye
@anti-hypocrisy, I also have to ask the following very difficult question: Why don't you, the very vocal protester against discrimination during the apartheid years, don't raise your voice and protest against new forms of discrimination? Against those . .more

by Dreban on September 06 2012, 09:42
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Got an answer from WW
Thank you for taking the time to write to Woolworths.

As a proud South African company, we are committed to transformation and the spirit of diversity in this country. Over the past few days, we have been dealing with rumours and allegations . .more

by Dreban on September 06 2012, 16:02
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My answer back to WW
Your answer does only clarify that your company is still insensitive to certain groups within your customer base. You are not convincing at all in terms of your company’s stance on racial discrimination during appointment.
Your company’s policies may . .more

by Dreban on September 06 2012, 16:03
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Existing employee needs scarcely met
I often speak with the WW employees I get in contact with when shopping at WW and many of them experience job dissatisfaction, which makes me wonder why one would want to work there... For instance - I have approached their management on their behalf to . .more

by Irrespective on September 06 2012, 20:32
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so i checked it out
I went to 6 wollies stores to see - and lo and behold it MUST be true - not 1 white person. How does our years graduates now hope to find honest employment if the racism continues? - I'm also offially boycotting woolies.

by ED on September 08 2012, 08:38
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ww
Never again shall I use a ww store. The Chinese imports sold at astronomically high prices against the cost is what is killing this country's economy, lost thousands of jobs and now they only employ people who will work for little renumeration.
It is . .more

by Allan J on September 08 2012, 11:31
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Woolies outdated and dark-age mentality regarding their employment policy
Woolies has really already had 18 years since the 1994 elections to committed itself to "transforming their workplace by implementing their employment equity plan, as approved by the director general".
So why after 18 years of transformation in SA is . .more

by sshewan01 on September 08 2012, 14:56
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Woolies Advert.
What would happen if a company advertised for White staff only. This is blatant discrimination and until they offer a public apology, boycott Woolies as well as South African Airways. Just wish I could boycott SARS.

by Roger Davis on September 11 2012, 02:09
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USA
Thank god I live in America. That whole article whose SO hypercritical in every way. Seriously no one else caught that.....wake up.

by Angela on March 17 2013, 11:34
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