Don't charge Mbeki for AIDS crimes - Malema
JOHANNESBURG (Sapa) - The ANC Youth League would not allow former president Thabo Mbeki to be charged with genocide, league president Julius Malema said on Monday.
This comes after Young Communist League national secretary Buti Manamela said Mbeki and former health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang had denied many HIV-positive people access to anti-retroviral drugs while they were in government.
Manamela made a call for the two of them to be charged with genocide.
"We must never surrender our leaders," said Malema at a gala dinner of the Pan African Youth Union at Emperor's Palace in Boksburg on Monday evening.
"Thabo Mbeki might have made mistakes but we can never charge him.
"We must not charge one of our own. If we allow that, the same thing would happen to [Zimbabwean President Robert] Mugabe, and the same would happen to [President Jacob] Zuma, and the next thing you know they will come for you," Malema said.
Malema said it was important for the ANCYL to support Zimbabwe's Zanu-PF.
"But we do not support only one individual," he said.
Speaking to the congregation of youth organisations of Southern Africa, Malema said the youth of Zimbabwe must stabilise the country.
He said while Mugabe did many good things, he must not use them to cling to his position.
"Those who have led for a long time must allow new leaders to come in," said Malema about African leaders' tendencies to cling to power.
"We have refused that in South Africa."
Malema said South Africa's struggle was not over.
"As long as we do not have economic power, our vote means nothing," he said.
He said South Africa's economic power was still in the hands of white males, who still controlled production in the country.
"We must refuse to be slaves of those who want to control Africa with remote controls from their golf estates," he said.
Advocating nationalisation Malema said the ANCYL did not plan to "grab land as they are doing next door".
He said while he supported the idea that land must be owned by Africans, "we have to respect the rights of the current owners".
He said the ANCYL supported the idea of willing buyers, willing sellers, but that the owners must not test the ANCYL's patience.
"You cannot steal my car and fit it with mags and everything and when I find it in Soweto you tell me I have to pay for it," he said.
"You must be arrested."
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There you have it - the ANC consider themselves to be above the law.
Got 700 corruption charges against you ? No worries, we will make them disappear
Got caught speeding - "hey, I'm ANC, you can't charge me"
by Sad Days on November 17 2009, 00:23
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. . . namely,
"Malema said it was important for the ANCYL to support Zimbabwe's Zanu-PF."
If anyone had any doubts on the subject, remain in doubt no more! This little tirade of political truths from the ANC's leading political . .more
by Peter on November 17 2009, 02:04
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The comments reported in this article flies directly in the fact of what the new ANC government reportedly stands for, namely the need for good governance to repair the past ANC government's wrong-doing. Again, I trust Malema is speaking from his own . .more
by Ironman on November 17 2009, 06:10
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The comments reported in this article flies directly in the face of what the new ANC government reportedly stands for, namely the need for good governance to repair the past ANC government's wrong-doing. Again, I trust Malema is speaking from his own . .more
by Ironman on November 17 2009, 06:12
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The comments reported in this article flies directly in the face of what the new ANC government reportedly stands for, namely the need for good governance to repair the past ANC government's wrong-doing. Again, I trust Malema is speaking from his own . .more
by Ironman on November 17 2009, 06:23
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What, of accountability?
by donovan on November 17 2009, 07:01
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This is what Malema is advocating; he's a politician and in Zuma's view a future President, and like Zuma and Mugabe he feels he must not be inhibited by the law in whatever it is he intends to do in future.
Considering the events leading to the . .more
by flebus on November 17 2009, 07:20
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And just how does this gibbering bunch of young simians intend to go about carrying out this threat? We really should be told so we can make the necessary travel plans etc. When Malema isn't reminding me of a latterday Hitler it's Squealer the Animal . .more
by Alset on November 17 2009, 07:22
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Now the darkies want to know why Africa is such a dismall failure. Colonialism, imperialsim has nothing to do with it. Culture, lack of ethics and grey matter has everything to do with it. I cannot wait for the day that all whiteys leave Africa and all . .more
by AP on November 17 2009, 07:25
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Stop proceedings against Selebi immediately; reinstate the ASA board, Morage back to Eishkom, etc. etc.They are all our leaders and deserve better treatment and BIG rewards.
by Rine on November 17 2009, 07:46
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sad days
by Nwali on November 17 2009, 08:01
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ANC policies, articulated loud and clear. Any doubts where the ANC stands on HIV/Aids, dictatorial impunity, Zanu PF, land expropriation, nationalisation? You've been warned.
by Tumi on November 17 2009, 08:12
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You're damn right we are coming after you to give you a paar vet klappe. Don't forget Mugabe is only safe while he is in government, the day he is out the world will be after him.
by Koos on November 17 2009, 08:13
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does malema even think before he speaks? i am a white south african born in the year 1990, i was born when mandela was released, i am an african so why should i be punished for being white??? the colour of my skin should not matter, what matters is that i . .more
by KCLJR on November 17 2009, 08:20
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good leader tell no lies and they claim no easy victoria corse no one would came out and prove to us that mbeki and manto they did not serve the nation well .you leader such us buti they should not use there sponsed view and came feed the nation with . .more
by obedient on November 17 2009, 08:25
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and Hitler left us in the 40's...luckily the new improved version for Africa is Thabo...he's got it right where so many other failed........the problem is that only 750 000 kick the bucket annually due to sickness or death....add 20 000 for murder and 15 . .more
by Super Duper on November 17 2009, 08:55
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahaha.................LOL.
Malema's humour is unmatched a liveweire to the political landscape.
by Julius 'Juggernaut' Malema on November 17 2009, 08:57
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"We must never surrender our leaders", but it's ok to sacrifice our people at the altar of political expediency? The ANC has already set a precedent that they are above the law; that they are in fact the law. Precisely the ingredients for a little . .more
by Swordfish on November 17 2009, 09:05
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Malema must stop speaking in English, he continues to twist his message. I doubt he means what he says when he says we must not charge our own. The problem with this mentality of impunity it that it breeds the Mugabes and all the tyrants that have come to . .more
by Gambu on November 17 2009, 09:14
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I wonder what tune Big Mouth Malema would be singing if it was Helen Zille who was responsible for the deaths of over 300 000 black South Africans.
by Airwolf on November 17 2009, 09:16
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Malema reckons that if you steal his car you should be arrested.
Most people would agree with that statement although one could ask the question whether he did not steal it in the first place -- figuratively speaking that is by latching on to the . .more
by Plutarch on November 17 2009, 09:41
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It's the media which has made Malema an untouchable, whenever he opens his mouth the media is there to catch his words, and what for? Why should he be given such a podium, almost as if he has the bully pulpit? When will this society acquire a national . .more
by Ekenj on November 17 2009, 09:44
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The ANCYL/YCL members can be given all the ARVs or condoms but as long as they follow leaders who cann't contain themselves sleeping with 3 or more wives or girls who are HIV positive; they will still be wiped off the face of the universe! Be wise like . .more
by Mute Fool on November 17 2009, 10:15
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We demand.....is not going to work.
by Punked on November 17 2009, 10:25
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Who does the Yoof league think it is? Do they really think they can "allow" or "disallow" anything except who they invite to their own suarés? They suffer from delusions of grandueur. What they seem to forget is where their money comes from- the tax base . .more
by Johnny V on November 17 2009, 11:03
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Do they call this boy a clown or what?
by Wendot on November 17 2009, 11:12
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Mbeki's HIV / AIDS denialism was and is a crime against humanity. The current ANC government's failure to protect its citizens with a loss of life equivalent to that of a civil war is also a crime against humanity. Nothing more and nothing less. . .more
by Observer on November 17 2009, 12:38
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Section 27 of the Constitution states that everyone has the right to health care. The President (Mbeki) took an oath of obedience to the Constitution, apart from which the Constitution requires the President to "uphold, defend and respect the Constitution . .more
by flebus on November 17 2009, 13:01
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You can't charge Mbeki and Msimang that will never happen not in this life time, the native will back one another forever if you don't know, You know what JULIUS Malema MFOWETHU you remind us of Peter the lion Mokaba SANI, raise the lion of AFRICA you are . .more
by nkululeko on November 17 2009, 14:35
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In July 2002, the New York Times reported that George W. Bush had saved Africa. That bighearted lug proposed giving African and Caribbean nations half a billion dollars for AIDS drugs. Combine this with Bill Clinton's deal with the pharmaceutical . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 16:35
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There's more to the World Trade Organization than GATS and combat over free trade. The WTO treaty most pertinent here is the psychedelically named TRIPS:
Trade-Related Intellectual Property Rights.If you read the gospels of globalization apostles, . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 16:40
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During the Clinton administration, the U.S. trade cops, led by then-Vice President Al
Gore and backed by Big Pharma, halted the life saving plan of selling cheap Argentine drugs to South Africans-Nelson Mandela's pleas, Nobel Prize and flowered . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 16:46
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South Africa hoped to use a loophole in TRIPS that permits the importing of patent drugs in extreme emergencies, even without the patent holder's approval. Initially, Clinton retaliated against South Africa by taxing some of its imports to the United . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 16:51
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Maybe I'm not being fair. After all, TRIPS seeks to protect and compensate
manufacturers for their risky investments and inventiveness in creating medicines like AZT, Glaxo- Wellcome's anti-AIDS drug. Right?
Glaxo was inventive, all right, but . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 17:00
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But Glaxo has a heart. In July 2000, the American-British behemoth announced it would sell South Africa an AZT-based drug for only $2 a day per patient, more than 75 percent off the price charged in America and Europe. Before Mbeki could call Glaxo to say . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 17:04
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Phew! I love to teach. There you have it. A little lesson in the workings of the real world. So now when Mugabe cries "imperialism" think him a little sane will ya! And when Mbeki insists on alternative routes to AIDS management, spare him a kind thought. . .more
by Robert Mugabe on November 17 2009, 17:14
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WTF? Can't understand a word from either of you.
by Jeff on November 17 2009, 18:06
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If true - fair enough. But, what is your point? Does the above amount to proof of Mbeki's innocence, or does it actually prove his guilt i.e. he played out American plans for the Africa (if it is indeed the origin of "black Gov" AIDS . .more
by Rogi on November 17 2009, 18:14
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I agree with Rogi....We are pawns in a very big picture of the globe. The Chinese and other slit eyes are very carefully watching the perfect display of failure of intentlligence in this country AND Africa as a whole. The LOVE it that we mess up left . .more
by @BobMugabe on November 17 2009, 19:51
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How long will it take to bleed the country dry and exactly as it was done almost everywhere in sub-Sahara Africa?
by Injala Apera on November 17 2009, 20:11
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I dont know if you really want an answer to your question? But I can say this much...we South Africans (and I am one by birth) have a limited amount of time left in which to enjoy what we call "South African". All over the world the picture has changed . .more
by Sally on November 17 2009, 20:41
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If I was a black person in South Africa today I would be highly embarrased having voted in Malema as my youth leader and for the ANC being the goverment.
It seems that black people will never understand the concept of non racism, freedom for . .more
by J on November 18 2009, 09:32
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Those who thought Malema hate Mbeki are DISSAPPOINTED. That why you wrote hatred becuase you fail to appreciate the consistency of Malema's logical thinking.
by Mduduzi on November 18 2009, 14:56
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why charge them this is afica how many africans is being killed by thier own
everyday
by ivan on November 19 2009, 07:41
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