Racial lunacy in the police

JOHANNESBURG - In November 2006 the South African Police Service adopted an "Employment Equity Plan" for the period from 2007 to 2010 (see report). The document made clear that the overriding goal of the police's top brass was ensuring that the institution reflected, at all levels, the racial proportions of the national population.

It boasted that "stringent measures" had already been put in place to ensure compliance, by senior management, with these "numeric targets" in recruitment, promotions and appointments. And, it mooted the possibility of re-introducing "severance packages" to accelerate the clearing out of racial minorities from the organisation.

The document embodied the racial lunacy of the Mbeki-era. Crime was rampant. South Africans were living in a state of fear. The police force was crippled by a shortage of expertise. And in the midst of all this, the SAPS leadership remained obsessed only with the pursuit of an odious racial ideal.

Recently, the Solidarity trade union launched a new series of legal challenges against a number of incidents of racial discrimination that resulted from this policy. In almost all of the cases, the union states, the police leadership preferred to keep positions vacant rather than appoint qualified white applicants to fill them.

These cases are designed to test the legality of certain extreme forms of race-based ‘affirmative action.' They may also succeed in highlighting the ongoing personal and institutional costs of racial discrimination and exclusion.

The first of them was heard in the Johannesburg Labour Court last week. Captain Renate Barnard was recommended twice for promotion in 2005 and 2006 but her promotion was blocked by the then national commissioner of police, Jackie Selebi.

Testifying on behalf of the SAPS Senior Superintendent Johannes Phetolo Ramothoka said that Selebi "wanted to ensure that all units" adhered to the "equity plans" of the organisation. "White females were already over-represented by five at salary level nine" he stated, "so her appointment would have meant an over representivity of white females on that level."

In turn, Barnard broke down in tears as she testified about how she found all avenues of promotion closed to her. She told the court that all she ever wanted to do was serve in the police, and was totally committed to her work. "I want to ask management, what must I do more to get a promotion? I sacrificed my family to do my job properly. I am a top performer."

It seems that the racial policies of the SAPS may well have served as a cover for other agendas. It was suggested in court that the (former MK?) soldiers redeployed from the SANDF to the SAPS in 2004 and 2005 - after a twelve week conversion course - have subsequently received preference in promotions. Barnard testified that members of the police who had joined from the defence force were all now superintendents or senior superintendents. She and many other career police officers meanwhile - both white and black - remained stuck at the rank of captain.

Selebi's refusal to promote experienced and committed police officers also stands in marked contrast to his enjoyment, or so it is alleged in his corruption trial, of the company of rich white crooks.

This then is an important story, and a very revealing one. One cannot understand the institutional rot that set in during the Mbeki period without reference to the racial obsessions, and all the attendant pathologies, of that era. The success or failure of the new Zuma administration will depend, to a significant degree, on whether it can move away from them.

The story has also been extensively reported on in the English-language South African press, and no journalist could be unaware of it. Why then, has it received so little coverage in the foreign media?

There appears to be a deep reluctance by foreign correspondents to report on cases of discrimination against racial minorities in Southern Africa. One possible reason for this is that a disturbing number of Western intellectuals regard such measures as fully justified even when it crosses over, as it did in Zimbabwe, into outright persecution.

In its report on Solidarity's press conference Reuters, for one, took it upon itself to try and rationalise away the racial policies of the SAPS. The Reuters handbook states that "As Reuters journalists, we never identify with any side in an issue, a conflict or a dispute" and that "Reuters journalists do not express their opinions in news stories." Thus, its reports will often qualify a statement of the blindingly obvious as being the expression of the view of one side or the other. Reuters' reports on Zimbabwe, for example, commonly state that "critics" blame the economic collapse in that country on Zanu-PF policies such as the "seizures of white-owned farms."

In its report on the initial Solidarity announcement, however, this principle was thrown out the window. Reuters simply regurgitated, as unquestionable fact, two stock claims of African nationalist propaganda. The article stated that the police's "affirmative action quotas" were "established to address the wrongs of apartheid"; and that the "legacy" of white minority rule "can still be seen, with whites continuing to occupy a disproportionately large number of senior positions in government and the private sector."

But while many Western journalists and commissioning editors may instinctively support ‘affirmative action quotas' in South Africa this does not fully explain the deep aversion to publishing stories on the consequences. American and British readers may be delighted (or appalled) at the way Renate Barnard was treated, but why keep them in the dark about this matter?

The problem is perhaps that most left-leaning Western intellectuals regard opposition to racism as central to their sense of self. This principle has often co-existed with a complete identification with the cause of black African liberation.

It is in the maltreatment of Africa's racial minorities by newly ascendant black nationalist regimes that these two core beliefs collide. The honest response would be to acknowledge this clash, and weigh the one belief against the other.

Instead, the usual pattern is for such intellectuals to wage an ideological war of position against this discomforting reality. The existence of discrimination is ignored or denied. When it can not be denied it is euphemised. When it can no longer be euphemised it is rationalised. And when it can no longer be rationalised that minority's moral claim to equal treatment is aggressively derided.

It is a great pity that the West has chosen to turn a blind eye in the way that it has. Some of the worst elements in our society take great comfort from that fact.

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One cannot understand the institutional rot that set in during the Mbeki period without reference to the racial obsessions, and all the attendant pathologies, of that era. The success or failure of the new Zuma administration will depend, to a significant degree, on whether it can move away from them."

James Myburgh

 

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White Evil and Black Good, James... James, the Western Press was recruited by the SAcan White Left into the Struggle. (As an aside, a family member tells me of the time in the SADF when he witnessed Western Reporters paying people to stage a riot for them to film, and presumably, to . .more distribute as real footage of riots in the 1980s). People like Donald Woods had a big impact in slanting the reporting, and the seminars and press releases by Helen Suzman and Trevor Huddleston, and interviews and stories with Joe Slovo and Nadine Gordimer, completely marketed the Struggle under Western Reporters as Just, Justified, Necessary, and Moral. The Bleating of Sheep along the lines of White Evil!, Black Good! in this context continue to this day, and you cannot be heard above the din. To ask Western Reporters to change their approach and core assumptions after the fact is to ask too much. They will not report in positive terms on the fates of Whites in SA ever, as they never have reported on Rhodesians in positive terms. Their politics are vested in the outcome they helped to create, and negating their own legacy is that one step too big. We will continue to tell our story to each other, since only we will listen and understand. This is so now, and also later. . .less by JVR on November 24 2009, 03:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

so true This is simply one of the factors which will ensure that South Africa under black rule will set a new low point for failed african states. Only when we reach rock bottom will South Africa pick itself up and start the long road to recovery. This recovery . .more will be muted and never again will we see a South Africa that matches the country that was handed over in good working order in 1994. By the way.....this turning point will come about when black voters finally realise just how profoundly useless their leaders really are . .less by realist on November 24 2009, 06:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

"West" wants our citizens ! Whites should know the "African M.O." West welcomes skilled Safs, who become renowned sportsmen, scientists, businessmen, 'beauties winners from our small gene pool ! Safs CONTRIBUTE unlike parasites ex Africa. by old, female on November 24 2009, 06:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

God helps those who help themselves We as the Afrikaners have been let down on several occasions by the West, for example when we fought the CIA's war in Angola. We should never again trust the loony pinko liberals of the West. God helps those who help themselves. Our struggle against . .more Afro-fascism and racism perpetrated by the ANC will be won not by the West, but by ourselves. You and I can in small ways contribute to the struggle. For example: if you are in a position to appoint people, your first loyalty lies with your own people, not with other nations. You know which candidates to appoint, therefore. . .less by Afrikaner on November 24 2009, 06:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

AA James, you make an important point that is mostly forgotten or deliberately ignored. There definitely is a hidden agenda to Af Action as there are many competent Black people who are totally ignored in the workplace. Many of these are actually honest, . .more decent and competent people who are overlooked for promotion because of the honesty. . .less by js on November 24 2009, 06:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@JVR(Jan van Riebeeck) The Progs were right! The qualified franchise vote was the only way to go. Look at the mess we are in now. by Piet on November 24 2009, 07:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Nice point James It was worrying watching Carte Blanche this weekend and seeing 2 police related stories - the first involving a cop who raped a woman while arresting her for a driving offence and the force's reluctance to investigate - the second being the reluctance of . .more Durban police to do anything about all the residential houses in Durban being turned into places for street prostitutes to take clients. After a small burglary recently where I saw the intruder on the property, I went to the police station to get a case number so that the crime went into the official stats. The cop was taking the statement "so you saw the burglar run away and then you phoned the police ?" he asked ... well no actually, I didn't. I phoned ADT and the neighbourhood watch. It then suddenly hit me how bizarre this is. It actually didn't even cross my mind to phone the police. I just naturally assumed that they would be of no assistance. How sad is that. . .less by Sad Days on November 24 2009, 07:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Afrikaner Loyalty to your own people in promotions? OK so you agree with the principle of affirmative action then- promote based on loyalties and race rather than merit? by Jamo on November 24 2009, 07:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Conspiracy Theory No. 1 Anyone put a thought to the fact that dysfunctional countries are pliant for Western business interests. That in fact western business benefits from a dictatorship? Reporting in the States, as an example, is just as one sided and if it weren't . .more for the independent (mostly internet) press a massive amount of information would remain hidden. Although not addressed in the African context, there is massive proof of this happening within the media in the US, which is mostly controlled by 6 (Jewish run or owned) media empires. . .less by Peter on November 24 2009, 08:14 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

i have only one question: why are there any whites left in the police? by charlie on November 24 2009, 08:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

This article is a dog Every dog has its day, and every journalist has his dogs. by Domza on November 24 2009, 08:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Here is link easier... sorry Sorry did not know your comments did not accept html Here is the link, easier to access than above: http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2009/09/scorpions-saps-hostility-report-saps-on.html by Boycott 2010 World Cup on November 24 2009, 08:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Hamba Why specifically the West, or is this just another lame call for racial solidarity? Rather go to them than ask them to come here... by Afrique on November 24 2009, 08:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

"Racial Lunacy" Please understand that as long as the majority of white people can rant on the website, radio stations, boardrooms, workplaces etc whilst the majority of black people stay in shacks and rural areas with no electricy "racial lunacy" will never go . .more away. Ours is not an equal society but a society where it is acceptable for white priviledge to be protected at the expense of the under previldge black. And you want to tell me about "racial lunacy". Pres Thabo Mbeki was correct to be obsessed about race because in this colour matters. . .less by Mave on November 24 2009, 08:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

What's this So my comments were racist and this from realist is progressive "By the way.....this turning point will come about when black voters finally realise just how profoundly useless their leaders really are ." Eish SA by Mave on November 24 2009, 08:59 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

That Africans cannot see the link between their suffering and the incompetence and corruption of their black leaders is mind boggling. by TR on November 24 2009, 09:18 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Ill-informed and racist All your comments are racist and i find you racist. We never had a competent police force under apartheid. We actually had the most evil police force in the world and i think all those white leaders were supposed to be on trial for genocide or atrocities . .more that killed thousands of black kids. They used to kill people but still maintained their positions in SAPS and now u fools complain about AA. Black people are discriminated against on a daily basis and u see nothing wrong with that. U complain about individuals and think blacks rely on white intellects to progress the development of this country (how stupid). U racist bustards better wake up and smell the coffee, please realise that your infamous develish encistors have burned in hell with their embicious goals to be the eternal masters of this world. . .less by Reggy on November 24 2009, 09:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The SAPS promotion policy is a racist perversion masquerading as conformation to section 195(1)(i) of the Constitution which says that public administration must be broadly representative of the South African people, whilst in this process sections 195(1)(a), (b), (d) and (h) are . .more completely ignored. This section does not imply that each and every subsection of the public service must conform precisely to the demographics of the population at large; this would be lunacy and impossible anyway. Nor does this section of the Constitution imply that the founding provisions of the Constitution may be ignored in attempting to give effect to the provisions of section 195(1)(a), which is what the SAPS promotions policy does in that it perpetrates racial discrimination. Interestingly, the Chapter in the Constitution which deals with the Security Services, i.e. inter alia, the Police Service (Chapter 11) makes no mention of the need for representivity. Section 195 appears in Chapter 10 dealing with Public Administration. As far as I can see, the Constitutional need for "broad" demographic representivity is only stated in Chapters 8 (Courts and Administration of Justice) and 10 (Public Administration), which makes me wonder whether or not SAPS can legitimately claim that the Constitution enjoins them to enforce strict demographic representivity. . .less by flebus on November 24 2009, 09:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

shut up and suck it in The author of this article cannot dictate to western media what to write about, just as he would not want me to tell him which stories to write about. Unlike sa media, western media has matured from such black/white stories. the author should take a leaf . .more out the Reuters handbook on reporting about stories. his stories are always pro-DA, i've yet to see a story penned by him not attacking govt on black people in general . .less by sillyseason on November 24 2009, 09:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Numerus clausus After WWI several European countries introduced a law "Numerus clausus" which tried to limit jewish numbers at universities and other places to their ratio in the population because there were several times more jews at the universities than their . .more "proper" ratio in the population. Twenty years later this culminated in Auswitz. When will they start building gas-chambers in SA? . .less by the_hun on November 24 2009, 09:39 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Left wing hypocites Reuters now pretend that they take no sides when it comes to news. What a bunch of left wing pussies. When the conservative BNP tried to get a word in on a recent television "debate" Reuters were there along with all their other left wing brown nosers . .more flying in with all the venom they could muster because in left wing circles that was the correct thing to do. It is however politically incorrect to criticize anything that involves black people because (God forbid) you might be accused of racism. Nowadays that is more serious than being accused of child rape. The West is currently battling its colonial demons and still groveling about and apologizing for bringing civilization to Africa. There is no way that they are suddenly going to turn on the same people they spent years shivering outside in Trafalgar Square for. Were SA to go the same way as Zimbabwe, they would remain quiet but quickly take their money out and wish us the best of luck. . .less by Toothfairy on November 24 2009, 10:01 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Affirmative action Affirmative action = economic ethnic cleansing by proudlu mlungu on November 24 2009, 10:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Community affirmative action Another kind of affirmative action, also aimed at addressing past wrongs, albeit more recent ones and external to the police, was coincidently reported today, in response to the affirmative action within the police. "Over the weekend there were . .more three incidences in Khayelitsha where young men were stoned to death and in Tygerdal, Goodwood, a man was beaten to death. In all the cases, members of the community are believed to have taken the law into their own hands. Khayelitsha police station commander Aaron Mlenga decried the reappearance of the "bundu courts", " [http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20091123215923954C483337] As Abe Lincoln put it: "You can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time" The community in Khayelitsha know that while the police obsess with staff "representivity" statistics at the cost of effectiveness and suppress crime statistics (too embarassing), they are getting raped murdered and looted, even if they don't know the Pedi word for "lawlessness". AA beneficiaries may cocoon themselves in their beemers and (as a current court case is revealing) rape the fat of the land, but the folks "down home" are voting with their feet - and stones. . .less by Khayelitsha on November 24 2009, 10:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The Reitz 4.... A cursory analysis of the events and reporting around the so-called Reitz 4 incident will confirm the bias and deceiving agenda of the liberal press. Has anyone in fact seen the 10-minute video for balance and context or even the 30 seconds in question? . .more In a country where immeasurably worse discriminatory acts regularly occur and atrocious black-on-white attacks marked by gratuitous violence happens on a daily basis, this incident captures the headlines for weeks on end? The patronising approach and double standard applied to issues involving race, in fact serve to illuminate the embedded racism and prejudice of the so-called liberal press. . .less by KKK on November 24 2009, 10:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Lets get the show on the road What a disgusting state of affairs. Wrongs cannot be corrected with wrongs. I get so ashamed of my brothers. What is wrong with these racists. Can't they understand that you cannot promote a dumb-cluck to a intellectually senior . .more position overnight if they are not mentally and educationally equipped. The Western Democratic VALUES model has taken all of its people generations to develop. The madness of instant gratification is pushing the blacks into positions of responsibility, into instant richness and into situations that they cannot cope with far too quickly. 3 of the most important steps we can take immediately is 1. Educate the young well. Good teachers 2. Get rid of the burden of the traditions, voodoo, killing sacrificial animals, initiations and other barbaric practices. 3. Corruption President Zuma has already announced the need to educate, great news, as Mebeki was so wrapped up in himself, his importance & whiskey that he let everything else go to hell for 10 years. The black masses have a huge catchup to raise their levels of ethics, work ethics, and the other important building blocks of today's modern society. Lets give them every hand to help them along speedily through personal contact and get rid of the Afrolaziness, the eternal Afrotalk (with little lasting action ever enduring). . .less by Peter Tombola on November 24 2009, 11:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Question for Reuters Where are all these whites occupying senior positions in the government sector please? if this is indicative of Reuter's factual reporting, they'd better concentrate on selling financial data. by Incredulous on November 24 2009, 11:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Plese pack and go White people in this country seem to think the country belongs to them, that warped state of mind can be understood in the context that black people are here to serve them and work in creating wealth for them and only them (apartheid . .more mentality). Now as they realise that no it is not like that and the landscape is changing (toooo slow for the majority) all they can do is moan, whine etc. This is South Africa for all (at rate whites are complaining thus showing their true colours, it is clear that there is no rainbow nation and will not be there ever!), those who don't see it that way please please leave before you are forced to leave (mark my words the day is coming!!) . .less by Darkson of the soil on November 24 2009, 11:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@flebus :erratum Third para should read: 195(1)(i) and NOT 195(1)(a) by flebus on November 24 2009, 11:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mave You write : "Ours is not an equal society but a society where it is acceptable for white priviledge to be protected at the expense of the under previldge black." You are right, ours is an unequal society; but please tell me : Where is . .more white privilege being protected at the expense of under-privileged blacks? As far as I can tell blacks have more privileges than whites have nowadays. No white can possess a medium-sized business and employ only who he/she wants to. White businesses are disqualified from getting Government work, and also from getting work from firms who do work for the Government. It is also technically illegal for large companies to employ white males. It is also pretty rare for whites working in parastatals to get promotion. Government is unashamedly racist in the name of "addressing past imbalances"; something they will be doing even after Jesus has come again. So, pray tell where white privilege is being protected at the expense of under-privileged blacks!!!! . .less by mpho on November 24 2009, 11:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Darkson You Natzi black crackers are as bad as Diligaf etc....You are equally as stupid..Force me to leave...This place will swim in blood, 'MARK MY WORDS'...Shut up or put up idiot! by Noddy on November 24 2009, 12:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Darkon of the soil yo tosser, will you and you troop also just pee off to the darkest reaches of congo. because thats where you come from. only a real real twit would want to turn SA into zim2. so get real. we have huge issues all over the . .more place. one of them is your beggar mentality that says "eish, eets not maai folt" take some responsibility and maybe this country will actually go forward. start calling a spade a spade, look at real issues in a wholistic manner, stop blaming everyman and his dog for your own inadequacies. thats a start mr dark son from deepest congo. . .less by Eddie on November 24 2009, 12:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Yours is just race hatred for African People. Yuor kind prayed and hoped our freedom would fail first day. 15 years later its still going strong. All the african failure had an evil hand from the West, like the Equitorial Guine story with your Mark Thetcher. I hope you die early before another . .more African failure happens. . .less by All that prophecy of doom wont materialise. on November 24 2009, 14:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Darkson of the soil If you really believe that you can force born-and-bred South Africans and their families, of whatever race and colour, to leave this country then you are even more stupid than you sound. Be prepared to bleed and die. by Third Generation South African on November 24 2009, 14:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mpho Bro/Sis do yourself a favour and drive around this country and check the living conditions of people. Do a simple comparisons between black and white people living conditions, as matter of fact compare black constables to their white . .more counterparts. 1. Why there are no white tea ladies? 2. In the construction industry why is a white men watching whilst the black men are digging the ground? . .less by Mave on November 24 2009, 14:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Darkson of the soil To you and every African who think we are going to run away, think again china. When whites arrived in Cape Town this country, SA, belonged to the KOI and the SAN people, not to blacks. We have more claim to SA than you, go read the REAL history books, . .more not the ones you are forcing the children to study from now that is littered with your propaganda, but the ones that depict the truth. . .less by Pieter on November 24 2009, 14:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Article This article stinks and, whoever James Myburgh is, he has proven what a true racist he is, like so many others from his kraal ... tsk, tsk ... by Moxster on November 24 2009, 15:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Pieter Pieter, and in in your opinion, the KOI and tha SAN were not black, why ? Or should I say, they were not African, why ? by Moxster on November 24 2009, 15:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@mave Yebo sisi, we have great inequalities in our country which must be sorted out.Have you seen the houses the ANC MPs have? And Ramaphosa, Motsepe, Nissen, Mbeki, Maroga, Gcabashe, Mpofu, Gama and a very long long list of rich blacks, all much much richer . .more tHan I or any of my family can ever dream to be. Is their wealth also being protected at the expense of the under-privileged blacks? The point is that in a capitalist society you have to earn your keep through selling/applying your skills; if your skills are not in demand, you earn less and you suffer. Nobody is denying that apartheid deprived many (if not most) blacks from acquiring the skills required to prosper. This is something that must be put right through education and training and AA and other interventions. Unfortunately that will take time, especially given the ANC's inefficiency. But don't tell me white "privilege" is being "protected" at the "expense" of "under-privileged" blacks. Blacks should get educated and work their butts off like we had to, only then will they no longer be under-privileged. Just stealing from whites will get them nowhere! . .less by mpho on November 24 2009, 16:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mpho That is quite a mouthfull, for a 12yr old ... by Moxster on November 24 2009, 16:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Delivery is more important than transformation! Transformation, yes, but at the right pace, otherwise you slow down delivery to the vast majority of people. Delivery is much more important than transformation. The ANC inherited the scarcest resource in Africa - management experience and technical . .more know-how, and the ANC is getting rid of much of these skills that can be used to improve the lives of black people. Also, the black majority is disadvantaged compared to the black and white middleclass, but not compared to their peer group in surrounding African countries! There are also class differences in this country, with some classes having fewer children and better education, as an explanation for the wealth gap. . .less by Jan on November 24 2009, 17:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mpho: Irvin Khosa used an expression that applies to you by Dave on November 24 2009, 17:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mpho: sorry i meant to flame Mave not you! skies by Dave on November 24 2009, 17:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

What to do my fellow white South Africans It's simple - keep strong, get stronger - get richer - skills are scarce and will become scarcer - whites always survive in Africa at the top of the heap - even in the wosrt places - the disprarity is just worse (for blacks unfortunately).Bring it on . .more black dudes...we take you on....lololol. . .less by Tommy on November 24 2009, 17:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Idiots @Mave, So you deny that the present government is incompetent and corrupt in a great many instances, and that one of the main reasons they can't deliver is because of cadre deployment of incompetents. You are one patronising idiot, . .more Mave. @Reggie Please name those "thousands of black kids" killed by apartheid-era police. . .less by Jeff on November 24 2009, 18:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mave " Pres Thabo Mbeki was correct to be obsessed about race because in this colour matters" So let's leave police posts empty because there is no suitable black candidate. That's really going to help solve the crime problem. Read the damn article . .more properly, before you come with your patronising claptrap. Police strategy is now "Shoot to Kill". Typical African solution. Let's kill first and to hell with the consequences. It's the A**********. Always has been, always will be. . .less by Jeff on November 24 2009, 19:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The solution It's simple, the loser who applied for asylum in Canada used the wrong argument by focusing on crime. He should present the anti-white ranting of Malema, the BMF, Maroga's "vision", the police affirmative action case, and other miscellaneous bits and he . .more would have had a fairly strong case that whites are beginning to be the targets of systemic discrimination, with very little protection from the government. If Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and UK open their doors to white South Africans as refugees most of South Africa's race relation problems will disappear. Whites won't feel the urge to constantly whinge about everything, since they will have an easy way out, and the sense that they are in South Africa because they want to be here. And the government will have an incentive to play nice to prevent a huge brain drain. . .less by Gs on November 24 2009, 19:26 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Affirmative Action perfected by the Nats Let's not forget the Nats used affirmative action to their great advantage, now it's someone else's turn, big deal. Everyone does it, I've worked in multiple companies where several members of the same family are employed, all of them white. What are . .more you going to do with the teenager who just scraped through matric? Find him a job in your office, ne? . .less by Possum on November 24 2009, 20:02 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@moxster @darkson It is not a black white thing. It is a black any other race thing. I was recently in Cape Town and talking to a coloured SAP inspector in a critical security role. He has been recommended for promotion twice by his superior and turned down twice - not . .more black. The post has remained unfilled. I would expect there are many other examples like these. . .less by jonkalala on November 24 2009, 20:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

What a load of croak The writer unfortunetely stil wears the racial blinkers that still blind most of our white compatriots. Race unfortunately has little to do with the ladies failure to move up the ranks (as the writer many times points in the article), political . .more affiliation has all to do with it. It actually makes me mad to think that whites are playing victim while they still enjoy so much in the country. Meneer as a black African with 15 years of engineering experience, an MBA, an accounting degree and apolitical I am also still waiting in the queue unemployed?You know why? I am neither white nor a member of the ruling class. What i see here is a matter of entitlement, unfortunetly one has very little information on the matter, but I can bet this white lady has black seargents with over 30 years experience reporting to her, you go figure? . .less by Botsotso on November 24 2009, 20:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

On the Spoorweg, Possum!! Aaah Possum Please get the facts straight. The Nats used affirmative action for Afrikaners .... on the railways! That is right, job reservations to dig Afrikaners out of poverty was on the railways, and these people referred to . .more themselves as "Spories". That was the most explicit AA for Afrikaners under the Nats. Now in SA business, the mines, the factories, etc, Anglos ruled, and made the firing and hiring decisions, right unto the 1990s. Some AA for Afrikaners was done in the Civil Service, but very limited. So please get the facts straight. There is no reason to revise the past. . .less by JVR on November 24 2009, 20:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@moxter Gee, man, you so clevvah! Obviously older than 12. Betta you don't waste your wonderfool intellllect impressing us kids. Go get moxtered man, or in baby talk, sod off! by mpho on November 24 2009, 21:24 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Its the Art of war silly Pit your enemies against each other and your batles are easy. If you were the Americans or the Cinese and wanted the mineral wealth from Africa who would you want in Government in Africa. White people who understand the economy and may question . .more your motives etc or Black politicians who will give you free reign to plunder for the requesit handshake for a few select individuals. What these wan^%%ers in Gov don't realize is they are still someone else's slave. Its a natural process where the weak are dominated by the strong...it happens with all species on earth ....trying to hold it back on people is just silly. . .less by Fred on November 25 2009, 08:48 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

the truth is...and think about it for a second there will always and always be affirmitave action in SA...BECAUSE the average white worker will ALWAYS be better than the above average black worker. You can decide why that is but the word culture sums it up. @Possum,I would leave the Spoorweg out . .more of this just because 99% of people that worked for them did the country a favour...no major bonusses, no handouts, 18 hour shifts and no Cosatu's to help them strike every second week. 35 years and my father gets R4000 a month and a C***** medical. BUT that was enough to get me 3 through UNI...so you see me and my family had zero advantages at any stage....but that is the difference between Afrikaner and African....a sense of work ethic, entitlement,culture . .less by william on November 25 2009, 09:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

to Reggy Do you think that you could learn how to spell properly? We know what your ancestors (please note the spelling) did not have an alphabet, but we expect that you, who can now use a computer (white magic!) should be able to spell seeing you went to school. . .more My ancestors (please note the spelling) were correct in thinking that your ancestors did nothing but sit in the sun as they had also never invented the wheel. Please tell me about ONE innovation or design that you and your ancestors gave to the modern world? . .less by John Logan on December 11 2009, 14:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

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