Zuma allergic to the rule of law - Zille

Colleagues, friends, fellow democrats.

This provincial congress gives us an opportunity to take stock of our achievements and to look ahead to the challenges we face.

I am pleased to say that we have never been in a better position than we are today. We are growing in strength and number. The prospects for future growth look good. More and more people are aligning themselves to our vision of the open, opportunity society and rejecting the ANC's closed, crony system.

We must continue to do all we can to grow our party. This means an unstinting commitment to developing a diverse and excellent corps of new DA leaders. It means forming alliances with other parties that share our core values. It means showing South Africa that life gets better for all where the DA governs. And it means doing all we can to stop Jacob Zuma's assault on the Constitution.

I want to make something perfectly clear today: if we do not stop the erosion of the Constitution at the hands of Jacob Zuma, all efforts to grow our party will be futile. If Zuma is willing to ride roughshod over the Constitution to get into power, he will continue doing it to stay there.

Last week, Julius Malema made the following statement:  "We must not lay charges against one of our own. If we allow that, the same thing would happen to Robert Mugabe, and the same would happen to Jacob Zuma, and the next thing you know they will come for you."

This, in a nutshell, encapsulates the boetie-boetie mentality of the ANC. It is to protect the politically powerful at all costs, no matter who or what suffers in the process.

Many people are fooled by Zuma's warmth and affability. They do not see the warning lights flashing red. The result is a collective amnesia around the events that led up to Zuma's assumption of the Presidency. Well, allow me to refresh your memory.

If we join all the dots we see how Jacob Zuma, behind a façade of charm, is slowly dismantling our Constitution, bit by bit.

Let us go back to 2005 when President Mbeki fired his deputy, Jacob Zuma, after it emerged in court that Schabir Shaik had bribed him. Zuma, up until then a prime contender to succeed Mbeki, was effectively knocked out of the race.

Zuma had two choices.

He could go to trial to prove his innocence, expediting the court case so that he could have his day in court to clear his name. He would emerge from the trial vindicated and ready to serve. The whole saga would end there.

Or,

He could go to great lengths to avoid his trial, finding every conceivable legal technicality to delay his court case whilst his henchmen plotted a strategy to ensure he never had to stand trial at all.

Zuma chose the second option. The strategy was to co-opt, cajole and neutralise every individual and institution that stood between him and the Presidency, regardless of whether these actions were lawful or even constitutional.

The Zuma clique's prime target was Thabo Mbeki, not out of revenge as some people believe, but because it needed control of the powerful levers at the President's disposal.

The first step was to depose Mbeki as ANC President. This was achieved through a dubious electoral process, resembling a coup, at the ANC's National Conference in Polokwane.

The second step was to remove Mbeki as President of the Republic and install a Zuma surrogate. The Nicholson Judgment - which inferred, but never proved, that Mbeki had influenced the decision to charge Zuma - was the pretext Zuma needed.

Mbeki was summarily ‘recalled' and replaced by Kgalema Motlanthe. There was no sham of an electoral process this time. It was a straight coup.

Having unseated Mbeki as President, Zuma set his sights on the man with the power to decide whether to prosecute him or not: Vusi Pikoli, the National Director of Public Prosecutions.

Pikoli had proven a difficult deployee, unwilling to do the bidding of either ANC faction. He had initiated the prosecution of Mbeki's friend, Jackie Selebi, and he had charged Zuma with corruption in 2005 and again in 2007.

Ironically, it was Mbeki who gave the Zuma clique the excuse it needed to get rid of Pikoli. The Ginwala Commission, set up by Mbeki to probe Pikoli's fitness for office, was the perfect pretext to fire Pikoli even though the Commission found that Pikoli was, in fact, fit to hold office and should be re-instated.

Zuma and his clique could not allow this to happen. If Pikoli was reinstated, the National Prosecuting Authority would continue its case against Zuma and destroy his chances of becoming President.

To justify firing Pikoli, Motlanthe homed in on a peripheral aspect of the report which suggested that Pikoli had not displayed enough sensitivity to issues of national security, whatever that meant. That sealed Pikoli's fate and he was gone.

Having used the powers of the President to get rid of Pikoli, the Zuma clique went after the Acting Head of the NPA, Mokotedi Mpshe. Mpshe, when Mbeki was President, had actually appealed the Nicholson judgment which had declared Zuma's prosecution invalid. But now that the Zuma clique was in charge, he was a push-over. Under political pressure Mpshe dropped the charges after Zuma's team gave him a taped conversation of former NPA head Bulelani Ngcuka and his former deputy Leonard McCarthy allegedly conspiring against Zuma.

The fact that the NPA is legally obliged to prosecute in the face of the overwhelming prima facie evidence did not enter into it. The fact that it was Pikoli, not Ncguka and McCarthy, who charged Zuma was deemed irrelevant. And the fact that Judge Louis Harms had established the principle that a prosecution was not wrongful "merely because it is brought for an improper purpose" was ignored.

This was yet another flimsy pretext conceived under political pressure from the ruling clique.

Meanwhile, another Zuma acolyte, ambitious Western Cape Judge President John Hlophe had been driving another prong of the strategy - trying to influence Constitutional Court judges to find in favour of Zuma. In his meetings with two judges, Hlophe boasted that he was politically-connected and said that he came with a mandate. He explained that Jacob Zuma, like him, was being persecuted and that these judges represented "our last hope."

This, at least, is the version of events that no less than the full Bench of the Constitutional Court set out in a sworn statement. It is a great credit to the Constitutional Court judges that they resisted Hlophe and blew the whistle. Indeed, it must have come as a shock to the Zuma clique who no doubt expected these judges to roll-over, as others have, in the face of the Zuma juggernaut.

That the Constitutional Court judges had referred the matter to the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) put the Zuma clique in a bind. It might well come out that Zuma, or someone close to him, had dispatched Hlophe to influence the judges. The only way to stop this was to stack the JSC with ANC members, which it duly did. The matter was inexplicably squashed, robbing us of the truth of what really happened.

We were robbed off the truth again this week. Vusi Pikoli, a man who has in the past proved his independence, was paid R7.5 million to withdraw his court case against the government over his dismissal. Had he gone to court, the phony reasons for his suspension and dismissal would have been laid bare.

The out-of-court settlement has opened the way for Zuma to appoint Menzi Simelane, a self-confessed "political animal" who says that he was deployed to the NPA to "implement the ANC's vision for the NPA."

This is the same Menzi Simelane which the Ginwala Commission found had unlawfully interfered with the prosecutorial independence of the NPA when he was Director-General in the Department of Justice. The great irony is that Pikoli, who the Ginwala Commission found fit to hold office, was fired. Simelane, who the Ginwala Commission found was not fit and proper, has been appointed Pikoli's successor.

Now that Zuma has his man in the NPA, he can sleep at night with the certainty that Simelane will never re-open the case against him, regardless of whatever new evidence comes to light.

With the former President, the NPA, and the JSC taken care of, only one person remains to be taken care of - Zuma's erstwhile friend and financial adviser, Schabir Shaik. Shaik needs to be appeased because - as one half of a generally corrupt relationship - he has too much dirt on the President.

The first step was to secure Shaik's release from jail in March on medical parole due to an unknown terminal illness. Anyone who believed that this was legitimate at the time soon saw it for what it was when Shaik was spotted in good health at various malls and golf clubs around Durban.

The second step will be to grant Shaik the presidential pardon he applied for in April. The speculation is that Zuma will pardon Shaik and give him back the R39.2 million of his ill-gotten gains. This will come to pass, mark my words.

The modus operandi of Zuma's ruling clique is clear. It is to remove any impediment to unfettered power, either through buying people off or using flimsy pretexts to get its way.

Some will no doubt dismiss what I have described today as a work of fiction, the plot of a third-rate political thriller. They will say it is based on circumstantial evidence in the absence of hard proof. But when the truth is squashed, we have to make up our own minds based on the evidence available to us.

If what I have said today is a lie, I would expect Zuma to sue me for libel. But he won't do that because it would mean proving me wrong in an open court. And Zuma is allergic to courts because they tend to reveal the truth.

If the truth sets us free, the cover-ups and obfuscation keep us in chains. South Africa will never be a healthy constitutional democracy, unless we use every means at our disposal to make sure the truth comes out.

This is an extract from a speech delivered by Democratic Alliance Leader Helen Zille at the KwaZulu-Natal Provincial Congress in Durban, November 28 2009

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Many people are fooled by Zuma's warmth and affability. They do not see the warning lights flashing red. The result is a collective amnesia around the events that led up to Zuma's assumption of the Presidency. Well, allow me to refresh your memory. If we join all the dots we see how Jacob Zuma, behind a façade of charm, is slowly dismantling our Constitution, bit by bit."

Helen Zille

 

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A dangerous clown Zuma plays the jovial clown whilst quietly doing a Mugabe ... and Julius plays the jester and distracts everyone's attention, by his own admission, allowing Zuma to proceed without too many spotlights focusing on him. And Julius' buffoonery and . .more idiocy has the added bonus of making Zuma look much brighter than he is. How can we point fingers at Zuma, drawing attention to his lack of cerebral matter, when there is this total imbecile quoting verbal diarrhoea at his side. Don't be hoodwinked people - these are dangerous times. Zille and the DA are tuned in to what is happening. Support them ... or pay the price. Julius once said of Zuma "You don't have to be educated to be a president" ... I personally prefer my leaders to have a high enough intellect to be able to solve SA's huge problems. SA really doesn't deserve to have buffoons in power. . .less by Sad Days on November 29 2009, 22:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Can the ANC be stopped? Firstly is the date qouted as Nov 28 2000 correct? The bigger question is how do we stop the ANC when the majority of his supporters are as stupid as he is? Only once, 2 weeks ago, did the ANC supporters refuse to vote for a ANC man and . .more becuase he was known as a drunkard. In other words if you are a man who screws young woman with aids, takes bribes and employs crooks you will be voted as president but only if you are a drunkard they will not vote for you. Bottom line is that stupid people will beleive anything. . .less by JvR on November 30 2009, 05:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Great work It's not because she's a woman, neither because she is white! Ms Zille is doing a great job and in the process, I believe many South Africans will give her a chance at teh next polls. Keep the good work and corporate / political transparency up Helen! by Ironman on November 30 2009, 05:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Reality of African Solution RSA joined AFRICA at last. SAZIM we are ! United we stand in our dictatorship and idolatry of Liberation. by old, female on November 30 2009, 06:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Can Zuma be stopped? Yes, if everyone who cares about SA's future takes a leaf from Zuma's and Malema's "feet-on-the-ground" book and joins one the opposition parties and support Zille, de Lille and Holomisa in their efforts to reverse the Mubabesation of our country. . .more Whatever their vices, Zuma and Malema know how to organise and work at the grass-roots level. "For evil to succeed, it is sufficient that good people do nothing" . .less by Loudly South African on November 30 2009, 07:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Zuma allergic to the rule of law? That's trite. Name one African "leader" who is not by Plutarch on November 30 2009, 08:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Zuma above the law? You are missing the point, helen. Zuma IS the law. This is Africa, 1000 years behind Europe. Think about english history 1000 years ago. The land belonged to the King and his aristocrats. They could do as they pleased. They could depose the King if need . .more be. We need a Magna Carta here. Then limitations on the authority of the king and his closed circle. You can fill in the spaces. I hope the DA is not going to be our Thomas Becket. . .less by js on November 30 2009, 08:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

frightening words helen.... i have always supported you but don't support your gandhi-like methods they may have worked in india, but here we need stronger stuff to remove the thugs by charlie on November 30 2009, 08:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Too late I'm afraid SA is going to end up another African basket case and those who disagree and say it can never happen here - you are naive beyond belief. Unfortunately I'm stuck here but if opportunity knocked I'd be out of here so fast your head would spin. . .more I'd rather have much less in another country where you at least don't have this complete third world mentality. The sheeple will continue to support their master Zuma and the ANC and there's too few around to make a difference. . .less by Cassandra on November 30 2009, 08:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

A perfect summation Good stuff, Helen... by M on November 30 2009, 08:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

What now Helen. Helen , you are my heroin! You should be the president! Why dont we just cut through the red tape , declare the independnance of the Cape and make you president. Once that has happened , people will see the fruits of proper governance and then , maybe . .more then , the people of SA will vote you in as the president of the whole country! . .less by Ant on November 30 2009, 09:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

unti-anc Im not for ANC and I understand that Moneyweb is unti ANC well, but this is a lot of BULL. Grow up Helen, stop attacking the President and realise that dirty tricks dont work. Work hard like the ANC did. They fought injustice for many years . .more while you were enjoying the benefits of discrimination . .less by md on November 30 2009, 09:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Cassandra is an optimist I have no doubt that Ms. Zille has it right. Democracy and the rule of law have arrived at a cliff edge thanks to Mr. Zuma's immoral machinations. The current ANC is not a liberator, but an oppressor. If only the ANC voting majority would remove their . .more blinkers and see the truth.....but they are blinded by false prophets and racist rhetoric. . .less by Just a normal person on November 30 2009, 09:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Oooooeeee Boy ! Why isn't this obvious or is it obvious but the BEE greed overides common sense. I suppose they are only human. by Albie on November 30 2009, 10:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Racist DA You are a racist finish and klaar,you are only riding on STupid coloured who vote DA because they made to beleive they are white. by Dave1 on November 30 2009, 10:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

will never stop voting for the ANC There are a few facts that people have to consider before making all these insulting comments that are written here about the head of state. One the NNP now disguised as the DA was in power in this country for many years. Throughout that whole time a . .more black human being was treated like a second grade human being. Now are you telling me that all the white people who are passing comments here did not see that happen, if they did see it, what did they do about it? 2 Has there ever been an attempt by the DA to try and rectify the imbalances of the past so that we see that the DA is really looking out for the majority of the country. 3 Why is the DA so much against structures that are meant to uplift a black man? How better is their plan going forward if they were to be given a chance to govern, what do they have to offer a man in Nqutu, if they do not even know about the hardships that man faces every day? If there is something people should know is that we will never stop voting for the ANC no matter what DA says about Zuma or the ANC. . .less by Mqansa on November 30 2009, 11:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Just a normal person Your answer I'm afraid lies with md - These people or the majority of them unfortunately think like md. Any critism is met with a truely ignorant logic. They will unfortunately only wake-up when we too enjoy Zimbabwian or the 'prosperity' enjoyed in the . .more rest of Africa. It is only when they start fighting one another and those with the bigest gun start dominating will they wake-up in hunger from ignorance and blind prejudice which was instilled by apartheid and continues to be reinforced by the ANC. Alas too late she cried. . .less by BBP on November 30 2009, 11:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Racist Helin Zilla, she is the racist womun. It is too much clear thet this one she hates the ANC and the Zuma and the peepil that voted for ANC. This corupshin that the DA talks about. This is lies. The ANC is the only honest party and the others, they is . .more all liars and not honest. . .less by molefe on November 30 2009, 11:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@md Md Was Helen Zille benefitting from Apartheid? i suggest you do a little more reseacrh into the matter. i think you may find she was very much in opposition to the Apartheid system. Are you benefittinjg from the ANC cronyism? you . .more must be, because no one in their right mind would argue that the ANC is ruling with fairness and transparency! Which comrade are you? . .less by Socialist Agenda on November 30 2009, 11:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Zille, this is Africa and your rational and correct logic cuts no ice Do you really think that the blacks will ever vote for you? You are white and blacks want ALL whites out of Africa. There is no rational reason why millions of blacks vote for black leaders who take them and their countries into absolute poverty and ruin . .more but that is what the majority of black people do. They accept this and vote for the black leader who will, usually, be completely corrupt and useless. So nice try and yes what you say must be true otherwise Zuma would sue you but he will NEVER go to court for obvious reasons but will deploy more and more useless supproters in the Judiciary just in case. A failed state - that is South Africa. . .less by History on November 30 2009, 11:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mqansa Does your boss know that you're playing on his computer? by BPP on November 30 2009, 11:24 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

south africa is not going in a good direction at all for the last 15 odd years the place has steadily but relentlessly gone the way of most african countries and the anc's desire to adopt their hero mugabe's principles is only going to take the country into total ruin. their leader july malema is just like . .more mugabe in my opinion. . .less by foreigners beware on November 30 2009, 11:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Hold it folks. It is time to define democracy. BECAUSE it ain't what we have got. We have got, I am told, a 'young' democracy. That's a euphemism for a socialist politburo. Democracies do to have an aging process. Senior mismanagement of just about every parastatal mention more about demgraphics . .more than democratics (silence on delivery). We may have a demograhicracy (maybe even a racist facism), but certainly not any recognised form of democracy. As Zimbabwe has aught us, democracy is more than a voting ritual. The players must share true democratic values. . .less by Free the Rest on November 30 2009, 12:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mqansa You should separate the issues of the problems that exist wrt the current head of state, and those you listed from 1 to 3 in your response. Wrt the latter, note that the "white" electorate voted overwhelmingly for an end to apartheid in the 1972 . .more referendum. We all hoped for a united South Africa committed to the welfare of ALL South Africans, white and Black. That ideal was effectively destroyed by Thabo Mbeki and the racist chauvinism he championed. I can assure that, given the Constitution we now have, all citizens in this country would be better off under a DA Government. The DA would honour both the letter and spirit of the Constitution and not embark on an orgy of stealing and cynically promoting their cadres to do the same, as the ANC has done. We would have clean and competent government for the benefit of ALL South Africans. The DA is not the NNP in disguise, and you know it. And what Helen Zille has written above is the absolute factual truth. If you can, and I dare you to, please point to ONE factual or improbable statement in her article. All this is so depressing, personally I see no bright future for SA because the Blacks are, on average, as stupidly and as rabidly racist as the Whites used to be! Absolutely NO DIFFERENCE! (But "white" leaders were not ever as blatantly crooked as Jacob Zuma seems to be!) . .less by flebus on November 30 2009, 13:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

correction to @ Mqansa ".....in the 1992 referendum." And NOT 1972 by flebus on November 30 2009, 13:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Loing the comment Thanks for your comment Molefe. You have just proven a lot. by Has Matric on November 30 2009, 13:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mqansa Hullo my brother. You is right, and I am thinking very clever. Do you have the standard 7? I am thinking this. The DA she is not the honest partee. This one they have been giving the money to Shaik, and then they have been telling the newspaper that . .more it is Zuma. This one, thay are making the Maroga go. Eskom she is very good, but still they must make him go. I think that the DA, she is the same as the NP. Just that the name is not the same. But this is the corrupt one. Just look at the Eskom, SAA, Land bank - all of this it is the DA that tell the papers the lies, and then the papers they tell the peepil the lies. But we know that this thing is good. Viva the liberation. Viva COSATU. Viva nationalisation of the mines, banks and kentucky fried chicken. . .less by Molefe on November 30 2009, 13:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

If the President of South Africa is an alleged criminal and fraudster who has yet.. .. to have his day in court, how can South Africans have any respect for the law of criminal justice system? by Parker on November 30 2009, 13:42 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Mqansa Mqansa you are cleary a Mugabe fan from Zimbabwe. But consider for a moment the views of your Nigerian counterparts who thank the lord the whities stayed in power so long in SA - look to the lack of infrastructure in Nigeria and you will see what SA would . .more have been like had ANC taken over in the 1960;s ... . .less by BobHopes on November 30 2009, 13:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

If there is a country... That would open their doors to thinking South Africans right now, the exodus would be Biblical in proportion. Sadly, SA is officially THE most corrupt country in the world, crime is epic and corruption is out of control with NO will to sort it and many . .more other structural problems out. Hear me out. After the 2010 WC (ironic), we will slide into the morass of African dispair. If I had my way, I would do everything in my power to prevent the World Cup happening here - we do NOT deserve this farce while our people starve for service delivery. My taxes are paying for this political ego trip! Old Communist strategy - keep the people uneducated, hungry and hateful of sucessful racial and economic groups. What will it take? . .less by The Saint on November 30 2009, 14:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@md What exactly is "BULL"? I would like you to be specific please. by M on November 30 2009, 14:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Challenge 1) The DA is not the NNP in disguise. I challenge you to provide your reasoning (please don't tell me it's because the leader is white). 2) Many white people did see the way blacks were treated; many felt this was right and there are many still . .more today who long for those days, BUT there were plenty of whites who did what they could and it is thanks to them (more so than the ANC in fact) that blacks finally have equal rights. In fact, I believe that it was the ANC's communist stance and affiliation with the Soviet Union that delayed an earlier dissolution of apartheid. Don't forget either that is was the whites-only referendum (my first ever vote! :-)) that finally brought about the end of apartheid. 3) Looking out for the majority: The DA understands that the best possible conditions for EVERYONE come about through equal opportunity, through the rule of LAW (not the rule of the ANC), and growing the economy overall so that we ALL have a bigger pie to eat from. Under the ANC, it is only the ANC who get and give access to the pie. 4) The best structure "to uplift a black man" is an understanding that the best man for the job will get the job, so he'd better make sure he's the best. . .less by @Mqansa on November 30 2009, 14:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

you voted for it I will write this 100 times a day...you all voted for this in 93....now watch SA burn by william on November 30 2009, 14:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Now write this 1000 times... if it wasn't for 1993, SA WOULD be a flaming mess today! by You are a real William on November 30 2009, 16:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

maniwep so you are a mouth piece of the DA/imperialist racist. Zille you will only become relevant to the majority if you started acting in the ineterest of the populace and not a minority group in the capetown beach-resort by now we know on November 30 2009, 17:14 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

simiber@gmail.com Good article Zille, as always you do your country and province proud... But the sad thing is that you can present the facts time and time again in your own words in a way that is clear and easy to understand, that flows, has logic, evidence, makes . .more sense... but there are always going to be the majority of Mqansa's of the world, who can't see the wood from the trees? What has Zuma really done for this guy... in reality? except give him a glimmer of hope that things will get better? Why is he so loyal to Zuma, because JZ represents everything that is ingrained in his way of thinking, whether he believes it or not! All i know is that If I was suppressed and treated as inferior for the majority of my life, I could never vote for a white female... Look at the comments that you are racist, not one thing you have said implies you are racist, not one action you have ever done leads to that conclusion... but in the eye of an African, you will always be that! and it will never happen... it will take 100 years (if not more) for the majority to vote for a white president even if they are hands down the best! I hope you succeed! I pray! and i hope that you never see the picture that I just painted, because SA needs you, it needs you to never give up! even if it costs you your life... you are like the NEO or SA and JZ is Mr. Smith... . .less by Simon on November 30 2009, 17:34 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Dream on, the train cannot stop now When they allowed all to vote, no matter how un-intellectual, we were all doomed. That was before Zuma. Zuma is just the logical conclusion. Helen, being part of the Black Sash helped this process along. by NoHope on November 30 2009, 18:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Hindsight the perfect science No matter what we did or voted for back in '93, SA being a part of Africa, was bound to be a disaster. Back then, the people voted for what they hoped would be a new start. It turned out not to be. Cannot blame black people for not being "Western". Do . .more we really expect them to be like us? . .less by Voted Yes too...sorry! on November 30 2009, 18:24 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

err ... Mqansa I think you will find that the NNP joined the ANC ... perhaps that is why it is now such a racist party carrying out their own version of apartheid. Since the ANC have been in power, 300,000 South Africans have been murdered and a couple of . .more million have died of Aids thanks to ANC negligence - makes the 10,000 deaths under apartheid look tiny in comparison. Factor in that over 50% of those apartheid deaths were black against black deaths inflicted by the ANC and suddenly the ANC doesn't look so pure after all. The days of the ANC having the high moral ground are long over. They are now wallowing in the sewers of Africa with the likes of Mugabe and Idi Amin. . .less by Sad Days on November 30 2009, 19:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

It's a zero sum game No matter the truth of Zille's observations, SA will go the A********** because the majority, the Blacks, will keep their bad Government in power. What will happen is a steady deterioration, and then a fat collapse, then a long period of chaos . .more and mayhem - Zimbabwe and Somalia being two good African examples. Then, somewhere into the future, decades maybe, our dear Black friends will have taken such a beating from their Brother Leaders, that they wake up from their African stupor and try and fix things. The only real way SA will ever recover is if the Blacks fully exterminate themselves through war, starvation and disease, and then the country gets recolonised by efficient managers - Chinese, White - whatever, provided it's not anything with African genes. . .less by Andy on November 30 2009, 19:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@NoHope No bloody brains more like. by Jeff on November 30 2009, 19:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Liberalism and the DA Problem is people vote with their emotions not their brains. by Jeff on November 30 2009, 19:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mqansa Keep on Mqansa soon you will eat insects with your ilk in Zim by jj on November 30 2009, 20:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

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