How Zuma lost his cool... and blew it

10. Justice Malala's column in The Times on the "good men" in the ANC government

Malala writes that it is important "that we do not forget these individuals. From them there continue to emerge innovative and inspiring attempts to solve our real and urgent problems, such as unemployment, education and health. There are many such individuals - they stand between us and chaos, between us and a precipitous descent into the world of Malema." Yet, such individuals mostly kept quiet in the face of the outrages committed by Thabo Mbeki. The question is why they have gone silent again as "Zuma embarrasses and Malema terrorises"?

9. Tim du Plessis' column in Beeld asking how long President Jacob Zuma will survive

Du Plessis recalls a past discussion with a black editor who noted that the three prerequisites for ANC leaders in the past were that they had to be intelligent (and well-educated), have integrity, and come from prominent families in their community. Du Plessis notes that Zuma is no fool, and that family origin is of less importance than it used to be. However, when it comes to the issue of integrity the big problem arises:

"Iemand met integriteit sou nie gehuiwer het om hof toe te gaan om sy onskuld te bewys as hy werklik in sy onskuld geglo het nie. Pleks daarvan is soveel politieke druk uitgeoefen dat die vervolgingsgesag inligting wat op 'n ongerymde wyse bekom is as verskoning gebruik het om die vervolging teen Zuma te staak. Dit sou iemand met integriteit gegrief het dat Shaik 'n hoogs verdagte mediese parool kry terwyl almal weet Shaik is heeltemal gesond genoeg om in die tronk te wees. Iemand met integriteit sou nie Julius Malema se bombasme en openbare ploertigheid verduur het nie. So 'n mens sou ook nie die Mafia-agtige wyse verdedig waarop Malema hom verryk deur tenderpreneurskap nie. 'n Leier van integriteit sou tewens nooit eens toegelaat het dat Malema die politieke monster word wat hy vandag is nie. Net 'n president met 'n integriteitsprobleem sou 'n gediskrediteerde amptenaar soos Menzi Simelane aangestel het in die kritiek belangrike pos van vervolgingshoof."

8. Anthony Butler's article in Business Day on the route SA politics is likely to take after the World Cup party is over:

Butler notes: "If the stadiums are full and international visitors embrace the vuvuzela as their own, Zuma's popularity may be buoyed by soaring national pride. Should violence or organisational disarray mar the event, however, national shame will be followed by a yearning for recrimination. The months immediately after the tournament seem destined to be filled with desperate power struggles. Yet it is not certain that Zuma is terminally damaged and cannot continue as African National Congress (ANC) president for a second term. The ANC in KwaZulu- Natal has its own plans for the succession and cannot afford to see Zuma depart early. It has invested heavily in the security state that will play a major role in any prolonged contest for power."

7. Derek Schultze's letter in The Times on how preferential procurement policies have allowed tenderpreneurship to take root in the system:

Schultze notes that under the rules adopted in the late 1990s "the evaluation of tenders is based on a portion of the tender price only (80% or 90% as the case may be). The balance (10% to 20%) is assessed on what is known as the ‘preferential procurement point system', which awards points, for instance, for the extent a company is owned by HDIs, women, the disabled and members under 35. Other preferential considerations include labour usage, HDI participation at all levels of management, as well as to what extent other ‘affirmable business enterprises' are involved in the tender. It is quite possible, then, that a client (a government entity) could pay up to 20% more for services rendered in a contract in a case in which the lowest bidder with zero preferential points (for instance) is not awarded the contract. As most of the preferential considerations in the tender documents are highly subjective in nature, the adjudication of tenders has become open to all sorts of manipulation and abuse."

6. Alec Russell's article in the Financial Times on how the cartoonish caricature of Jacob Zuma obscures far more serious issues:

Russell notes growing concern among Western investors at the direction the Zuma government is taking. These investors want Zuma "to go beyond equivocating and mollifying the feuding powerbrokers of his rowdy alliance" and start leading. "Julius Malema, the demagogic leader of the ANC's powerful Youth League, is touring the country with incendiary demands, including nationalising South Africa's mines. The government has belatedly said this is not policy, but business is concerned that Mr Malema has not been hauled over the coals. At the same time, party barons are sparring over the appointments of chief executives to the major state entities as if they were personal fiefs - these sectors need competent qualified managers, not apparatchiks. For all Mr Zuma's talk of a new broom, the voracity of ANC bigwigs for business deals, apparent under his predecessor, grows apace."

5. John Kane Berman's column in Business Day on the ferment within government over labour market reform:

Kane Berman argues that COSATU's loud protests against any possible changes are a reflection of weakness. The power of the union federation is waning as employers and job seekers cut deals outside the rigid formal labour market system. Its strength, he argues, is eroding in other ways. "Its penetration of the workforce is declining thanks to the rise in unemployment, which its own insistence on an inflexible labour market has helped to cause. At the same time, it is becoming more dependent on the state as public-sector unionisation increases while private-sector unionisation declines. Third, Cosatu is so obsessed with politics and patronage that it has neglected grassroots organisation. This is one of the reasons it relies (with impunity, given government timidity) on violence to ensure participation in strikes."

Kane Berman warns: "Cosatu should take a look at the history of white trade unions in SA. They too were dependent on their alliance with the ruling National Party (NP) to protect their jobs from (black) competition. When the growth of black grass-roots unionism changed the configuration of power on the factory floor in the 1970s and 1980s, the NP withdrew its support from the white unions and they were done for."

4. Rob Brand's post on his weblog critiquing the Supreme Court of Appeal judgment ruling that it was defamatory for The Citizen to call Robert McBride a criminal and murderer

Brand argues that the SCA's ruling is "based on a misunderstanding" of the amnesty process of the TRC. Perpetrators were "offered a trade-off: amnesty in return for full disclosure. The legislation did not require us to forgive the perpetrators or condone their actions. The intention was to set the record straight; to find out the truth so that we will never repeat the abuses of the past. To argue, as SCA did, that we may now not rely on that truth to express negative opinions about people who have been granted amnesty is just plain wrong. Am I not allowed to comment with distaste about the past of, say, Brigadier Jack Cronje, the former security policeman who, along with four of his henchmen, was granted amnesty for 47 killings of activists? If Cronje were to be offered a high-level post in the police in the new South Africa, would I be liable for defamation if I commented that he would be unsuitable for the position?"

3. The Daily Maverick's photo of ANCYL President Julius Malema being poured a glass of pink Moët et Chandon in front of the impoverished masses bussed into his birthday celebrations:

It is a scene that if made up would, as P.J. O'Rourke once put it, get you "drummed right out of the Subtle Fiction Writers League". Phillip de Wet reports that Malema told the assembled gathering: "I was made by the struggle of the poor. I'm a product of a poor family, and I'll remain humble before the poor."

2. The Mercury report on how SARS had taken possession of R16,5m worth of luxury vehicles belonging to the prominent Durban tenderpreneurs S'bu and Shauwn Mpisane:

Wendy Jasson da Costa reports that the couple quietly handed over a Rolls-Royce Phantom convertible (valued at R7m) and two white Lamborghinis (valued at R9,5m) to the taxman as surety for outstanding debts. "It is understood that the Mpisanes separately and through their various business ventures owed the taxman close on R50m, but it is unknown how much they have coughed up already or what amount is outstanding. The Mercury reported last month that among the couple's woes was a demand from the taxman for them to pay. Although it was speculated that the matter could go to court, it appears that the Mpisanes opted to co-operate and have struck a deal."

1. The Star report on Jacob Zuma's intemperate response to the nasty personal attacks directed against him in the British press ahead of his state visit to the United Kingdom:

Zuma told Moshoeshoe Monare: "When the British came to our country, they said everything we are doing was barbaric, was wrong, inferior in whatever way. Bear in mind that I'm a freedom fighter and I fought to free myself, also for my culture to be respected. And I don't know why they are continuing thinking that their culture is more superior than others, those who might have said so. The British have done that before, as they colonised us, and they continue to do this, and it's an unfortunate thing."

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This Herdboy is barbaric; what culture? Is sleeping with u r friend's daughter an african culture? Stop speaking on behalf of the rest of us; the media is right, you are such a disgrace barbaric std 3 village boy? The only thing that interest you is having sex even if the women pleads for mercy coz she is HIV . Why haven't u declare ur interests you . .more corrupt thug? Ooh, it is a "pvt matter" and you r just practising u r "culture"? . .less by Mute Fool on March 08 2010, 14:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Integrity I just love Tim du Plessis' exposition of those facts which point to Zuma's total lack of integrity. How on earth the ANC can STAND having such a slimy oafish twit as President is beyond any reasonable person's comprehension. I also love a . .more blogger's comment yesterday on the progression of SA governments from the Nats to Mandela, through Thabo Mbeki to Zuma. His description of these successive governments was : Pariah, Hope, Joke, Circus. In the latter Government, Zuma is the very unfunny clown. . .less by flebus on March 09 2010, 00:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

I thought Mbeki was not a good guy, a small man with no leadership or people skills He also seemed to dislike whites. However this Zuma guy is really bad for SA I think. He is so wrong you wonder if they could find a less appropriate person. He somehow managed to avoid his day in court (he must have had something to hide?). He will not . .more declare his assets (He must have a lot to hide?). He had unprotected sex with a girl he knew had AIDS. He has illegitimate children. He had extra marital unprotected sex with a friends daughter who then had a baby. He wants a machine gun. He dances about in Leopard skins. He has 20 to 35 children depending on who you believe. He has been married 5 times. He has 3 wives but there are more coming along. He is a populist. He cannot control Malema. The Government is even worse than when Mbeki was Boss and Mbeki was so atrocious as President they had to recall him. Read this and see if you think this person should be employed by the voters of SA. . .less by Buffoon for sure on March 09 2010, 02:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Mbeki and Zuma Mbeki was really the pits; a small-minded racist who thought he was a great intellectual, and whose obsession with race and his imagined intelligence led him into denialism wrt HIV/AIDS, resulting in the unnecessarily early deaths of hundreds of thousands . .more of his countrymen. His attempt to cling to power as president of the ANC led to the election of the priapic Jacob Zuma to that post. His effort to illegally shield his corrupt pal Jackie Selebi from prosecution led to the dismissal of one of the most honest civil servants ever in the country from his post as National Director of Public Prosecutons, and the appointment of the spineless and feckless Mpshe to act in that post; the result being the scandalous dropping of the 783 criminal charges against Zuma. History will point to Mbeki as the architect of SA's slide into 3rd world status; the shabby legacy of the little skunk with his flawed intellect and his monumental ego. . .less by mpho on March 09 2010, 09:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

It's my kulcha ... to be dishonest, to be corrupt, to fraternise with known criminals, to fornicate with reckless abandon ... it's my kulcha by Is this what it means to be African? on March 09 2010, 09:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Justice Malala...an overated fooll Justice Mala is one of the dumbest political analysts in this country! Every thing that this fool has commented on with regards to the ANC and its leaders were proved spectacularly wrong! Its amazing how newspapers are still wasting their money to pay . .more him for comments that are outdated and just simply wrong! . .less by Iskariot on March 09 2010, 09:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Try and prod the British into lifting Sanctions on Bob(not Zim) and you might end up with an SAS trained guard breaking your fat finger off. I like how these guys (the little poet did it too) go to Britain and America with their begging bowls in hand and try and dictate policy while clapping their beggar hands . .more together. Instead of promoting the world cup and the country all he did was show the rest of the world how stupid we Africans are when we choose our leaders and follow them blindly(defending mad Bob) into starvation. Did they check the palace silverware once "Airforce None" left for SA . .less by Fred on March 09 2010, 09:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Courtesy begets courtesy Whoever is responsible for this column has no respect for the President of this country otherwise he would not have published the very first letter by Mute Fool.I am asking that restraint be exercised in hurling insults to our President.Whether you . .more racists (the editor of this column included) like it or not Zuma is the president of this country.He has his mistakes and vices but that does not give you a right to insult him.The racists continue tentertain a wild dream that they might run this country any time in future. Mute Fool there is something that you are smoking and I suggest you stop otherwise you will go from mute fool to something else. . .less by ZAPATA on March 09 2010, 09:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

K** If Zuma is a culture vulture, he should join the `Kaapse Akademie Kultuur" Better known as K**. by Turd on March 09 2010, 10:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ZAPATA Respect is earned ! He hasn't and if you don't realise its not cos he is black its cos he is useless and a 21st century embarrassment to our country, then you Sir are the Racist. Remove the log from your eye before you attempt the splinter in . .more ours. . .less by Fred on March 09 2010, 11:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Zapata ....We were wrong.... In moderating our Criticism of the last president the ANC chose for us. At the time all the critics were called racists too when they argued that mBeki was a myopic fool and was murdering his own people. Today we all know that he and his . .more incompetent potato salesman health minister killed millions of people every year. Thank God she is dead! One Apartheid (over 40 years) 6000 people. One mBeki in power was one Apartheid (death rate) every 10 days. 99% of those that died were black? But we are racist for criticizing him and standing up for the common (black) man? Sorry but the logic in that just fails me. . .less by Fred on March 09 2010, 11:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The clown Racist Funny ( or not anymore ) how criticism of any black person in this country label you as racist - even if the criticism is just. Yes he is our president ZAPATA but please open your eyes, or am I also racist now ......ha ha ha by Kosie on March 09 2010, 11:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Criticising the top @ZAPATA If you read the British and French papers you would understand that what this column and they are saying about Mr Zuma is no different to their treatment of their own leaders. Le Canard excoriated both Sarkozy and Mitterand, and The Daily . .more Mail (an offensive rag) tears into Brown daily. The Telegraph unleashed huge invecitve over the MP expenses scandals; which, by the way, are nothing compared with the reckless spending of the ANC cabinet ministers. Mr Zuma can thank his lucky stars he is president of a little republic that has pretensions to infuence far beyond its means, and not of a major western power. . .less by john kalala on March 09 2010, 12:07 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Oh no zapata not you again - idiot Birds of a feather flock together and you zapata have a toilet for a brain. Go and spew your love and admiration for you 'president' somewhere else. Us grown ups are having a discussion about how inadequate zuma is and how incompetent he and his ilk are. . .more We all know you are a one celled racist organism which is why you talk so much rubbish. zuma is a thief liar and fraud - accept it now. In our white world antics such as his is expected, rather disgustingly, did you really think zuma will be a man of integrity ? No black person will ever reach the level required to be a responsible fair and honest person. And blacks havent changed much over the last 300 yrs except that they dress up and talk on phones now, but the brain hasn't improved much, will not soon either. Which is why all this waste will go on. But not for long, your greed and idiocy will be your own undoing, it has alreaddy started. . .less by YT on March 09 2010, 12:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

top 10 Great all 10 of you - You have brains and are respectable. by tops on March 09 2010, 12:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Zuma Jeez but you guys just don't get it do you! when Vorster and Botha wagged their fingers at the world it was to parliamentry standing ovations. by Roger the Lodger UK on March 09 2010, 12:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Zapata; ke le ndaki broer waka (i'm an african) nee racist! But JZ is ke Prez ya ditlatla (fools) like you. Fact is, he sleeps with his friends's daughters even if they tell him they are HIV (this is not african culture and not an insult). Let him & Juju continue lead ANC of thugs into self destruction... ga re . .more sa ye hloka ANC (we don't need ZANU-SA anymore). Those who say Mbeki killed AIDS people miss the point; many SA men behave like JZ (hence they voted him). Why must we fund their ARV's? Why cann't they follow the likes of Mbeki who stick to 1 partner? I still don't know how this ARV shopping spree as endorsed by the Herdboy is going to be funded? . .less by Mute Fool on March 09 2010, 12:57 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The Mbeki disaster Another disaster we have to thank Mbeki for, is the throwing to the wolves of the SA economy through the catastrophic and unconstitutional policy of cadre deployment. The ensuing corruption and tenderpreneurship will burgeon further under Zuma, . .more and will be almost impossible for SA to recover from in the medium term. The ANC's hyena's and wolves are truly rampant, and tearing the economy apart! . .less by fuzz on March 09 2010, 13:02 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

It's Zuma's fault the truth about him is insulting and it is surely our right, and even our duty, to speak the truth. A fornicator is a fornicator, whether he is president or not, so why should we not say, given the facts, that the president is a fornicator? If this is an "insult", then so be . .more it. Mr Zuma is NOT a role model for the youth; this is not an insult, it is not a racist statement, it is a matter of fact. So let ZAPATA and other Zuma apologists suck up to Zuma if they so wish; we objective types, not blinded or dismayed by power, equally have the right to tell the truth the way we see it. . .less by flebus on March 09 2010, 13:13 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Cut and paste drivel This supposed article is just a hurried cut and paste. There is nothing original or new. Same old same old bash, bash, bash. A toltaly incoherent soup of diverse right wing mutterings. No attempt at an argument or making a point. It sounds like someone is . .more incapable of doing thier own thinking. It says nothing about Zuma but plenty about the author. This feeble attempt to transpose all the Mbeki folly onto Zuma will not fly. The real issue is the battle for the soul of the ANC. That battle is being won by the people and not by the well connected brown envelope crowd. This polarisation will continue, but I know where I stand. The biggest fear of the elite is having an ethical unbribeable man as the President. All the ignorant people who go along with the anti Zuma retorhic are either unable to make a clear judgement for themselves, or are paid in brown envelopes. The people Govern end of story. . .less by ANC Man on March 09 2010, 13:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Iskariot Please list me the 10 imost recent utterances that were all proven wrong. No one person only talks drivel, not even Julius! by Nic on March 09 2010, 14:01 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Some headlines... of the media does not correspond to the contents of the true story. Anyone who believes and acts on what the media is saying and printing should consider to have their mental faculties examined. The Britons came and confiscated our land and resources . .more with guns. That is a disgrace to humanity! Viva Zuma. I like it the way you relate the truth about the Britons attitude(s)! . .less by Pierre on March 09 2010, 14:18 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ANC Man Considering that less than 2000 people chose Zuma, "the people will govern" is rather inappropriate. As for the battle for the Soul of the ANC...... That corrupt, burned out crispy, festering, puss filled pimple on the A** of the nation can . .more hardly be called a Soul now can it. I also think the old Soul filled ANC of the past has been romanticized to death and was probably nothing like we are led to believe a once righteous organisation led by moral leaders. . .less by Fred on March 09 2010, 16:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ANC man Zuma an ethical unbribeable man? You brainless sycophant. by Andy on March 09 2010, 16:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ANC Man You say : "The biggest fear of the elite is having an ethical unbribable man as the President. All the ignorant people who go along with the anti Zuma rhetoric are either unable to make a clear judgment for themselves, or are paid in brown envelopes. The . .more people Govern end of story" One cannot work out whether you regard Zuma as this unbribable paragon of virtue, or whether you think of him as some kind of puppet under the control of "the people". What is clear is that "the people", as we understand the term, are NOT governing, some faceless kleptomaniac mob is in charge; and, if you represent the thinking of "ANC Man, ANC Man is very much in denial and needs a wake-up call. I go along with much of the anti Zuma rhetoric, I am able to make a clear judgment for myself, so why haven't I been paid in a brown envelope? . .less by fuzz on March 09 2010, 17:01 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

"the hyperintelligent Thabo Mbeki...." Mr Mpho, since you comment about this that "Mbeki was really the pits; a small-minded racist who thought he was a great intellectual..." I would like to add that not only did Mr Mbeki thought that he (himself) is a great intellectual, but that Tim du . .more Plessis in Rapport wrote in Beeld 2010-03-05 about Zuma that "As hy dom was, sou hy nie die hiperintelligente Thabo Mbeki so omvattend uitoorlê het soos wat in Polokwane gebeur het nie..." In other words, Thabo Mbeki is hyperintelligent, and President Zuma is even smarter, according to Mr du Plessis... With commentators of this caliber, no wonder the ANC defeated the Boers and continue to destroy their institutions and culture. . .less by JVR on March 09 2010, 18:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

qpoDREEWWrmxidjiqnxlQNDPQ The fact of the matter is.... at grass root level...all the stakeholders...zzzz...... by Jo Jo Jo... on March 09 2010, 20:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Tim du Plessis' faux pas Yep, you're right, Tim was pretty stupid to have misread that situation so badly. Fact is Mbeki was hated by factions in the alliance to the extent that ANYONE else would have been preferable. To my shame I must admit at one stage I also thought . .more Zuma preferable to Mbeki, but that was out of sheer hatred of what Mbeki stood for, and for disgust of the utter contempt with which the opinionated little turd treated those not sucking up to him. But Mbeki was even more stupid than Tim; he actually thought he would prevail over Zuma, and by any civilised standards Zuma is so obviously the pits himself that Mbeki can to some extent be forgiven for thinking he would trounce Zuma. But the thick-skinned little chump did not realise how much he was hated outside of the circle of those beholden to him, and the rest is history. Problem now is how to get rid of Zuma and the horde of incompetent blood-sucking ANC cadres eating out our substance. Are there really no honest men of substance left in the ANC to do the necessary? Or is some sort of coup going to be the only way going forward? We live in interesting times! . .less by mpho on March 09 2010, 23:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Here Zooma goes again! He falls just short of shouting racist or attacking the colonialists on the one hand, then proceeds to prove that he does not take global warming seriously by demonstrating by his own actions that he is willing to faunicate with anything that moves and . .more reproduce at a rate that mother earth cannot support. Eish, Zooma and his underlings should be in the circus, and not be privy to running a country! . .less by Sipho on March 09 2010, 23:56 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The Chinese curse, Mr Mpho You are right on about Mbeki. I would not call him names, but I have realised since the mid-1980s, once I gave the ANC men a good look, what they were all about. I know I repeat myself, but one cannot understand Mbeki without reading up . .more on the Black Panthers and in particular about Kwame Nkrumah. Mbeki is far from being the super-genius Tim dP thinks he is, or as he was presented to us by the Victorious White Left in 1994, but I will give him credit for at least sticking to a coherent ideology based on Black Superiority (yes, just like White Supremacy, one gets Black Superiority). So what now? - I have preached this for a long time - but the first step for Afrikaners is to understand that we are snookered. Fight back, and you are racist, work with the ANC, and you are a sell-out. Stand neutral, and you will be a powerless bystander to untergang. What is left? Perhaps withdrawal. In the old days, it was known as a laager. That or trek to Zambia or the Congo or overseas to Oz....Yes, yes, I know this will be condemned by enlightened Afrikaners... but having your neighbours being knocked off one by one tends to focus the mind on safety? And Pulease... we cannot save South Africa!! We cannot even save ourselves!! . .less by JVR on March 10 2010, 02:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Fred I think you are romanticising about what you think the people want. If we had a direct election for the Presidency tomorrow. Jacob Zuma would win hands down. At least with a 60% majority. Remember that before last years election he had been attacked . .more relentlesly by the media for about 9 years. His face was the main feature of the ANC election campaign. Hundreds of thousands of people turned up to to see him in person. Your thoughts on what the country wants is pure fantasy. . .less by ANC man on March 10 2010, 12:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Andy Where is your evidence that Jacob Zuma has ever been bribed. Where? . 8 years of investigation and a paltry amount of money handled by the man who handled his financial affairs at the time. With no evidence of any kind to link to a bribe. The amount in . .more question would not even buy a volkswagen. Where is your evidence. It dose not exist. You have convinced yourself that Mr Zuma is corrupt. But where is the evidence? There quite simply isn't any and there never was any. The entire legal system was thrown at him for about 8 years. The media condemed him. But where is the evidence? - No where to be found - Think hard about what your perjudice is based on. . .less by ANC man on March 10 2010, 12:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@fuzz Your words "I go along with much of the anti Zuma rhetoric" - Yes Ok " I am able to make a clear judgment for myself" - So you believe " so why haven't I been paid in a brown envelope? " - Because you just go along with. by ANC man on March 10 2010, 12:56 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

You are correct, ANC man... ANC man -- I agree with you about this all.... If there is an election tomorrow in SA directly for President, Mr Zuma would trounce everybody else, at least 60% of the vote, all in the Eastern Half of SA. The Western and Western-Central part, well, . .more not much support. But then, most people are East off the line from (say)Umtata to Joeys to Mussina... I have for years made a similar observation about Zimbabwe.... I assure everybody here, now, that if there is a one-man one-vote election in Zimbabwe tomorrow, with Angels running it and the Apostol Paul counting the votes, that Mugabe will defeat his rivals. Yes, I know he was cheating in all the elections so far, and this is the irony, he does not have to cheat. By the way - the reason Zuma (and before him Mbeki, and before him Mandela) support Robert Mugabe (see for example again the calls to lift sanctions from President Zuma), is because Mugabe did what they would dearly like to do: Stuff the whites, confiscate their property, chase them out of the country, etc etc. You get the picture, and it is a movie we have seen in Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Kenya, Ivory Coast, to name but a few. In ideology, there is very little separating Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma, Nyerere, Kaunda, Arap Moi, Machel, and yes, Mugabe. The West, and the White Left in South Africa, never understood this.. . .less by JVR on March 10 2010, 17:10 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

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