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Racial quotas at UCT

James Myburgh
12 May 2011

James Myburgh on how the university betrayed itself

Over the past few months the American media has taken something of an interest in the race-based admissions policy of the University of Cape Town. In late November the New York Times ran an article on the topic, and in the past week National Public Radio has run a similar report.

UCT requires that applicants classify themselves according to the old apartheid designations of white, coloured, Indian and black. Differing admissions criteria are then applied depending on which of these racial categories the applicant belongs to.

For instance, for entry into the MBChB programme a "Black" applicant needs to score 36 points on their matric results and 15 (out of 30) points on the National Benchmarking Test; a "Coloured" applicant 40 and 16 points; an "Indian" or "Chinese" applicant 46 and 24 points; and a "White" applicant 47 and 24 points.

The ultimate goal of the policy is to ensure that composition of the university ultimately comes to reflect the racial proportions of society as a whole. As the University states: "As a matter of policy we aim for a student body which has a significant number of international students and where the local component of our student body increasingly reflects the demographics of the South African population."

Perhaps not surprisingly both the NYT and NPR view the debates, within the university, around this policy through race conscious American lenses. The Times states that UCT is "engaged in a searching debate about just how far affirmative action should go to heal the wounds of an oppressive history." The NPR report meanwhile begins by stating: "Universities in South Africa are wrestling with an issue familiar to many Americans: affirmative action."

By framing their articles in this way - as an issue of "redress" for past wrongs - both reports morally prejudge the debate and, in many ways, miss the point. It is useful, from a historical point of view, to contrast UCT's current policy with the principles articulated in the early 1980s when the National Party government moved to begin desegregating the English universities.*

Up until 1983 a person who was not white had had to apply, individually, for a ministerial permit if they wished to study at a ‘white' university. Clause 9 of the Universities Amendment Bill, introduced that year, provided for the permit system to be replaced by a quota system. The number of black students allowed in each ‘white' university would be stipulated annually by the appropriate Minister of State.

Although representing something of a practical improvement on the existing system UCT, Rhodes, Wits and Natal all objected to this "quota clause" on principle. The Vice Chancellor of Wits, Daniel du Plessis, stated "The fundamental issue is that the Witwatersrand University holds that race, colour, religion and gender are not academic criteria, and that no non-academic criteria should intrude into the selection process of an academic institution. This is basic to our philosophy and policy."

UCT meanwhile took out advertisements in the Cape Town newspapers objecting to the government's transfer to the university of this "obligation of denying admission to black students who qualify on academic grounds" and involving the university in the enforcement of "objectionable discriminatory laws."

The Vice Chancellor of UCT, Stuart Saunders, stated that the reason the four universities "find the Bill totally unacceptable" reflects the fact "that these universities have, for more than a quarter-century, actively rejected racial criteria for admission to university." He also claimed that the legislation was "imposing upon the university itself the distasteful and objectionable task of rejecting students on racial grounds because of a quota imposed upon it"; and argued that, "race classification is an objectionable and irrelevant consideration whether it be applied through permits or quotas."

In parliament, in June 1983, the Progressive Federal Party MP, Alex Boraine, also spoke passionately against the Bill. He stated:

"The quota system is a system which restricts admission on the grounds of race. It is based, therefore, on race classification on the Population Registration Act. When one applies for a permit or when one applies under the quota system one produces one's birth certificate. That is the kiss of death, as it were, for a young Coloured, Indian or Black student, because the moment he applies he is not asked for his matriculation certificate-they do not ask him how well he did at school or what his symbols were, but he is asked what his colour is. That is the quota system. It is racially enshrined."

He then asked rhetorically, "What are we to make of this quota system? Where does it come from? What is its inspiration?" His answer:

"In the 19th Century this was imposed in order to limit the admissions of Jews to institutions of higher learning and was applied in the 19th Century by Tsarist Russia and extended in the 20th Century particularly to countries in Eastern Europe but also to others. It is perhaps not without coincidence that during the rule of Stalin [in the Soviet Union], such as system was also applied. This hon. Minister has learned well from what has taken place in Tsarist Russia and in the Soviet Union. Perhaps the most infamous of all took place in Nazi Germany."

Boraine proceeded to cite the Law against the Overcrowding of German Schools and Higher Institutions adopted by the national socialist government in Germany in April 1933. This had decreed that, "In the admission of new students attention is to be paid to the number of German students who are not of Aryan descent ... may not exceed in each school and faculty the proportion of non-Aryans to the entire German population [1.5%]. That proportion will be uniformly determined for the entire nation."

He commented: "Whenever they admitted a student after the rise of Hitler and the Nazis they had to produce a birth certificate in order to determine whether they had any Jewish blood. This was a racial decree and I want to say to hon. members on the other side that this quota system is nothing more and nothing less than an approximation of the Hitler decree."

When an MP objected that this was untrue, Boraine responded:

"It is the truth. Tell me why it is not the truth? Exactly the same approach is being followed here. What I am in effect saying, is that members on that side have sat at the feet of the Soviet Union and of the Nazis and have learned, and now they are introducing a quota system where Blacks are denied entrance into our universities, not on the basis of academic merit, but purely and solely on the basis of race."

Although the legislation was passed by parliament, allowing direct black entry into the formerly ‘white' universities, the quota provision was never actually enforced. As Saunders stated in 1986 "I think the Government came to realise how repulsive a quota system based on race is for any university and has wisely decided not to apply it. They would be even wiser to repeal the legislation. For as long as it stands on the statute books it must be recognised in principle. Using it would do enormous damage to our universities in the world of international scholarship recalling that the Stalin regime and Hitler imposed racial quota systems."

In April 1991 the Education Minister, Louis Pienaar, announced that the offending section was to be removed from the statute books: "Although quotas were never determined, the deletion of this provision indicates once again the government's commitment to recognise the autonomy of universities and demonstrates its undertaking to abolish racial discrimination from the statute book."

From the mid-1980s UCT applied a corrective action policy based upon real disadvantage students had suffered at the hands of apartheid discrimination (but not, on principle, on race). The university pursued this policy of ‘equal opportunity affirmative action' up until the mid-1990s. According to its pre-1996 mission statement UCT strove "to maintain a strong tradition of non-discrimination in regard to race" both in the constitution of its student body and in the selection and promotion of its academic and administrative staff. Students would be selected on merit, although special criteria would be used to identify disadvantaged students with potential, and they would be given extra assistance to help them succeed.

In 1994 the African National Congress came to power and increasingly asserted, under Thabo Mbeki's leadership, its African nationalist agenda. Like many other racialist movements through history it made the demand that the universities, along with all other sectors of society, limit the proportion of minorities to their percentage of the population.

Instead of resisting or opposing this principle UCT adopted it as its own. Where it moderated it, and balanced it against other competing considerations, was in its application. This may have been a shrewd decision, politically and tactically, given the power of the ANC, and its racial demands, at the time. (UCT does seem to have done much better than some other universities in manoeuvring, albeit in a somewhat slimy way, through the transition.)

But its decision to place race at the centre of its admissions policy, and apply (in all but name) racial quotas, represents a complete betrayal of the principles it once invoked in the struggle against Apartheid-era discrimination.

Perhaps more importantly it represents a profound intellectual failure. The contribution of our universities to public debate in South Africa, over the past decade, has been pathetic.

Perhaps the main reason for this was that so many academics simply floated along, as UCT did as an institution, with the tide of the ascendant racial nationalism. South Africa is now dealing with destructive consequences of that project. It is difficult to see what contribution UCT can make to understanding and correcting these, for as long as it clings to the odious racial principle that lay at the heart of it.

* Note: Much of the following is based on research and writing originally published in 2007.

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@Kom Net Met Dromedaries
Hey Dimwit, maybe they change admission policy to one point .... and then you get to go to university .....

by Insomnia on May 12 2011, 07:57
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And your point is?
The flaw in the article is to raise questions and provide historical perspective without attempting to guide what is to be done to redress the injustices of the past. If quotas based on race are not the way to go, what then? There is no need to write . .more

by Tony on May 12 2011, 08:14
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Kom Net Met Dromedaries on May 12 2011, 08:06

....just in case you wondered why....

REPORT IT:-
You find this comment offensive? Why?

"It is deliberately offensive, provocatively insulting, & no contribution to real debate".

Now go & wash your mouth out & . .more

by John Austin on May 12 2011, 08:26
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@Tony
Is there anyhting wrong with African nationalism in an African continent? No but if it is based on colour and race. it is very, very wrong. Coloureds, Indians, and Whites born in Africa are also Africans.

by Mother Africa on May 12 2011, 08:30
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@Tony
The key problem here is thet by attepmting to fix problems of the past, we create problems of the future.
Firstly, By insisting that black students achieve 11 points less, we limit universities roles as "institutes of higher learning". By producing . .more

by Insomnia on May 12 2011, 08:34
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Comments
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by Stanley Black on May 12 2011, 08:43
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very well researched
It has always seemed very strange to me that 20 years after the last significant apartheid law was abolished, the first thing that UCT university looks at when an 18 year applies, is whether he or she would pass the pencil test ie whether they would have . .more

by Sad Days on May 12 2011, 08:52
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Keeps them dumb!
it simply classifies whites as more intelligent and far superior to blacks. And this comes straight from government. Black South Africans will never be free and uplifted by a government that keeps then dumb!

by Clever White on May 12 2011, 09:36
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Transformation difficulties
The article is well researched and I do not think an alternative solution should be expected from the author. He made an important point and the powers that be (government, universities etc) should be bombarded with questions surrounding an . .more

by Howard Klaaste on May 12 2011, 09:51
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At least UCT is still functioning properly

It adopted a very successful parallel programme for med students who in the first couple of years were not coping and reintroduced them into main stream. At the end of the day the finals is where the playing field is level. A black child who fails . .more

by DM on May 12 2011, 10:35
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This is a serious indictment of UCT
Thank you, James, for this expose of the decline of moral integrity at UCT. This is a shocking and depressing - although not unexpected - revelation.
I used to admire Max Price for his earlier commitment to non-racialism and freedom. He has now shown . .more

by Graham on May 12 2011, 11:30
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I not Boer. I clevir.
I think I clevir. Only 27 years and I make it to standerd six. Mummy tell me I am special child. I not think she being nasty, I think she mean I am clevir.

by Mute Fool-dhubhula ibhunu on May 12 2011, 11:30
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qoutas
but UCT is not the only institution that does this....Univ of Pta is also doing the same!

by Me2 on May 12 2011, 12:01
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@Mute Fool-dhubhula ibhunu
I bet that you are just another troll on this site as you dont give any credible input to any debate. I think everybody should just ignore you.

by Eish on May 12 2011, 12:02
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@Mute Fool-dhubhula ibhunu
I bet that you are just another troll on this site as you dont give any credible input to any debate. I think everybody should just ignore you.

by Eish on May 12 2011, 12:02
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Racial quotas at UCT
It makes sense: it provides for the intelligence of the different race groups.

by Jules on May 12 2011, 12:06
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Solution?
I think the historically background is well reserached, but if one looks at the problem statement that the writer is trying to find an alternatives solution to, he fails dismally to provide any alternatives except to lay a blame on what UCT tried to . .more

by Neil on May 12 2011, 12:10
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More of a disadvantage
Now Black students have to work twice as hard in order to regain their credibility, Puts them at an immediate disadvantage

by concerned on May 12 2011, 12:11
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racial quotas for doctors
We should do what is done overseas...the students are not required to even put their names , no religons,no race on their application forms, just your academic qualification and a registration number. Therefore we get Dotcors who are REAL doctors with . .more

by just asking on May 12 2011, 12:30
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@Article
Ever came to the conclusion that, yes, there are different entrance criteris for various prospective students, but once they are in, everyone receives the same level of university education?

The reasoning on entrance criteria are quite clear, . .more

by The Moxster on May 12 2011, 12:34
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How do you say ...
femur in Zulu?

by Grif on May 12 2011, 12:35
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Another institution going down the drain
I am shocked that one od the country's leading learning centres can operate with an apartheid system.

One teaches the minds of the students, not their skin colour.

How disgusting and what a shame for the university's so called . .more

by Shocked on May 12 2011, 12:36
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Very sober presentation
The author is making very interesting observations. We deserve some answers from UCT, maybe they have an explanation. May I say, however, that the apartheid junta's exclusion of black people was not as transparent as the one he explains above, where . .more

by Guluva on May 12 2011, 12:37
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Guluva on May 12 2011, 12:37
Please explain to me exactly what an African is suppose to be. Is it someone born in Africa? Or is it a black African? If you choose the last option, then you should apply to the "Verwoerd School of Racial Seperation" do to your PHD. The present junta . .more

by "hACKER" on May 12 2011, 13:24
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Blatant admission of racial differences in intelligence
Let's say Tokyo Sexwale's kids attend a very exclusive private school. They will also receive this racist advantage of about 30% from UCT's PC Nazi's. This clearly indicates that the UCT views also Sexwale's children as genetically disadvantaged. J . .more

by Stoutgat on May 12 2011, 13:36
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disadvantage is the criterion
The UCT policy is wrong because it misreads the provisions of section 9 of the Bill of Rights - the equality clause. The idea is to promote the achievement of equality. Measures designed to redress disadvantage suffered by individuals and groups are . .more

by Paul Hoffman on May 12 2011, 14:06
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18 years on...
The admission policies of our universities are resulting in our higher education institutions becoming glorified high schools. If people need additional education before reaching the required university entrance point system criteria there should be a . .more

by observer on May 12 2011, 14:08
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Quotas
James you need to be congratulated. It is a very well reasoned article and I think it is quite unreasonable to expect suggestions from you on how the alleged problem is to be solved. A thing I miss about these quotas is that all whites are somehow lumped . .more

by Piet Swanepoel on May 12 2011, 14:13
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People are blinded by hatred
Most people here are talking nonsense. It's not always the bright kid who becomes a better professional. Kids who fail along the way (irrespective of race) tend to do better as adults and professionals.

The truth is most parents especially the . .more

by Sipho on May 12 2011, 14:28
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AhYes,effectiveCadrePolicy@UCT....
Cde Lindiwe SISULU wrote, inter alia:- "Dr(?) NGOBENI is a brilliant legal brain & I have no reason to question his integrity". Well, well, well, & this after NGOBENI's delinquency as an attorney in USA & then his exit as Dep Registrar at UCT in SA under . .more

by John Austin on May 12 2011, 14:32
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I remember, supporters of the then ANC were given the bursaries.
"Students would be selected on merit, although special criteria would be used to identify disadvantaged students with potential, and they would be given extra assistance to help them succeed." Rubbish, because both my parents were employed at the time, . .more

by PDI on May 12 2011, 14:55
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ThatZANUmodelAGAIN....oh-me-miserum.....

The ANCpf, like their zany ZANU mentors, believe in & action a "total strategy" post liberation. The subversion of the tertiary education system is but another string to that strategicbow.

There is nothing new in what's happening at UCT . .more

by John Austin on May 12 2011, 15:10
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I am Boer. I not clevir
I think I moron. Only 28 years and I make it to fong kong afrikaans univesiteit. oupa tell me Iam special nut case kinder. I not think jy is dom nie maar ek is a poepol. ek hou DA met my alle wit gat. wat se hy toe help my anti zille met daardie bantoe . .more

by Mute Fool- dhubhula ibhunu on May 12 2011, 15:24
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@ Mute Fool-dhubhula ibhunu
Old doctrine of Lenin - keep on repeating a lie and eventually even the liar would believe it - Dr Pieter Mulder obtained his doctorate at the University of Wisconsin, Madison (USA) in 1981 in International Communication and not in Afrikaans

by Wiseman on May 12 2011, 15:44
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Have your say
@ Everyone, if you are in interested in commenting more comprehensively on issues such as this one visit our site: www.wecandobetter.co.za , we look forward to hearing from you.

by Stanley Black on May 12 2011, 15:46
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Thanks to my brother
He helped me C** up with that clevir comidee above. He also veri clevir, I think, cause mummy say he also speshil.

by Mute Fool- dhubhula ibhunu on May 12 2011, 15:47
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Why
Wait, if mummy say I special, why I always hear her tell friends that her son she is the idiot.
No, mummy, why you doing this thing, it cant be that I am idiot, can it? oh no, for so long I think I am special, but now I see I am just stupid boy with . .more

by Mute Fool- dhubhula ibhunu on May 12 2011, 15:49
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@everyone
It's quite disconcerting that the tone of most responses are dilly dallying around the issue and the question the article raises but fails to answer. Disingenous UCT's intent might appear to be, but in passing judgment on them we must at the same time . .more

by Tony on May 12 2011, 16:07
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Hey Mute Fool...
Yawn!

by Same Same on May 12 2011, 16:14
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Admissions Debate on www.uct.ac.za
I would suggest that people read the UCT Admissions Policy Debate (follow the link on the top left hand panel of UCT's home page). Dr Max Price and Dr Neville Alexander both put forward opposing points of view, and in my opinion, both views have merit. . .more

by Romi on May 12 2011, 17:02
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quotas for blacks = living proof that whites have a higher "EYEQUE"
Only those who can't compete on a level playing field need to have a special hand-up, nuh?

by Infowars on May 12 2011, 18:46
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UCT run by spineless white "progressives"
An anti-white black is understandable. An anti-white white is beneath contempt.

by Infowars on May 12 2011, 19:00
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UCT on the skids?
Until now, UCT has regularly been the top African university on all the international league tables. ( UKZN used to be one of the top four but, under His Excellency, the Most Venerable and Sublime Professor Doctor Extraordinarius Malegapuru William . .more

by Sam van den Berg on May 12 2011, 20:16
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not realistic
ur analysis is incorrect and unsound not even founded u a biter idividual and racist at heart u don't consider the difficult secmstances that black leaners a facing 2dAY u only debate as a racist at best.

by ozzy on May 12 2011, 20:39
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Hypocricy
Thanks for a very good article. You have very nicely exposed the hypocricy at UCT but South African society is riddled with hypocricy. I think money has a lot to do with it. Speaking the truth has its financial disadvantages. In the old days you could be . .more

by Patrick on May 12 2011, 22:33
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@Romi
You are a complete twit, just like your fellow liberal carpetbaggers.

You make sweeping statements as though they are proven fact. The point that has been made, which seems to be ignored by you, is that the policy is applied purely on skin . .more

by B.E.N on May 12 2011, 23:06
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Hit UCT where it hurts
UCT alumni, and others, should simply withhold all financial contributions to UCT until the university changes its blatantly racial admissions policy, which negates the principle of academic excellence as the sole criterion for admission and is, moreover, . .more

by Whitefoord on May 12 2011, 23:26
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Racially biased admissions criteria.

James Myburgh has done us a service by presentation of his excellent article.

It never fails to irritate me when people use the pretext of "correcting the imbalances of the past" when they feel the need to justify racist policies. They never . .more

by mpho on May 13 2011, 00:08
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points
Sorry,I am not aware of any university in the united kingdom or elsewhere in Europe where applicants are given a unfair points advantage because the are a different race.Has the Mandela era not been with us for more about 20 years?Surely it is unfair to . .more

by derikmare on May 13 2011, 00:22
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University grades
Patrick - if South African society and university grades were in fact governed by "money" - how is it that Julius Malema does not have a a PHD in what ever discipline he chose???

by Retired teacher on May 13 2011, 03:19
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Leveling the Playing Field...
I'm surprised that none of the people that have commented here, have even taken the time to consider the massive gap in the education standards provided at private schools to public schools...a Hilton matric verse a Soweto High matric...why throw stones . .more

by Rainbow Nation on May 13 2011, 04:21
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Leveling the Playing Field
...having never been a Malema supporter....these comments have helped me and others realize that there can be no compromise...Our society is so polarized that even the people that comment here (people with access to computers - opportunities) can't even . .more

by Rainbow Nation on May 13 2011, 04:25
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Viva Steve Biko
Remember Steve Biko...if you have no memory and only contempt for his memory...then Malema is what you deserve...Let save our nation from these racists (all colours)...let's look for solutions that level the grounds - let's allow others to drink from the . .more

by Rainbow Nation on May 13 2011, 04:32
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Racial quotas at universities
Shame on respondents both black and white racists - you dont belong on this planet - if you want to cling to your sub zero I* mentality then listen -- there is only one race of people -the human race - come to the race course or go to Kyalami if you want . .more

by Peppy on May 13 2011, 04:59
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The world is your playground. Only if you're smart!
Black people are here to stay and rule. If you don't like it start checking the world map for your next destination. The dream of an exclusive good like for minorities was underwritten by apartheid, unfortunately for them apartheid is gone. An African . .more

by Sipho on May 13 2011, 08:53
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@ Rainbow Nation
I, like you, seem to be one of the few people to look at both sides of the issue. I agree with Dr Neville Alexander that using race as a proxy for disadvantage is re-racialising post-apartheid society. However, I also see merit in Dr Max Price's point of . .more

by Romi on May 13 2011, 09:28
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Racism Multiplied
Under apartheid, white interns got a certain pay, Indians ans "Coloureds" got 80% of the white pay, and the "Bantu" intern got 60%. They all had the same level of qualification.The justification for this discrimination was that the whites had a higher . .more

by Mafirofiro on May 13 2011, 10:15
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@Romi@Rainbow@ZANUmodels...

...there is nothing wrong with your well meaning humanist tree-hugging sentiment.

BUT, you glibly (naively?) overlook the fact that the people doing all the poiliticaly inspired social engineering in SA today, do so with a different & . .more

by John Austin on May 13 2011, 12:00
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Social engineering sent you to dark Africa.
@John Austin - you're projecting a very strong God complex. By virtue of being white, you think you're superior and independent. Unfortunately there's no cure for racial hatred. Me thinks people like deserve to be ignored.


by Sipho on May 13 2011, 14:23
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@Sipho....not really....

....just a dry cynicism truthfully informed by the facts of my own life & experience in Africa (& abroad).

The race, class, religious, etc, cards are easy to play in whipping-up mass support & hysteria. BUT, its all about power & money at . .more

by John Austin on May 13 2011, 15:40
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@Sipho and @Romi and @Rainbow Nation
Sipho says : "There's absolutely no need to have a special dispensation for minorities."

Now that is spot on! But what UCT is doing is running a special dispensation discriminating in favour of the racial majority. The minorities are penalised . .more

by Joe Soap on May 13 2011, 16:58
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@Rainbow Nation
When running the 100 metres race, should blacks be given a head start of a few metres to "level the playing field" because they were not as well nourished in childhood as whites were, and could not afford the best training facilities as whites . .more

by Joe Soap on May 13 2011, 17:12
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Link for UCT debate MP3
Here's the correct link - other link is now dead:
http://www.uct.ac.za/downloads/uct.ac.za/news/multimedia/audio/admissionsdebate020910_sm.mp3

by Dave Martin on May 13 2011, 17:58
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@JoeSoap@100mts...handicap-qualification...

...should be given to white Africans; ask any Kenyan.

The English should be given a handicap on Curling or Caber Tossing; ask any Scot.

Presumably, Nigerians need no handical for fraudulent activity (although I understand some . .more

by John Austin on May 13 2011, 20:09
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Human race
Me GranDa was a "wit ou". Me Nan was a light skinned "Bruin Aunty", So me dad was "classified" as a "wit ou"
Then me Da married a light skinned portugeuse woman and had me. I passed the pencil test.Pure white according to them!!
Then i married a . .more

by Living in Excile on May 14 2011, 01:20
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@ Sipho
Capable people never expect or demand special treatment, they always rise to the top by their own sweat. There's absolutely no need to have a special dispensation for minorities.

True also for majorities, so why the need for BEE etc. and . .more

by Mother Africa on May 14 2011, 18:24
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BLACK 96 %
SHE MUST BE ON HER OWN , THE REST ARE STUPID .

beeee, bbbeeee, AA against the minority white race in SA , no wonder after a trillion blacks you would expect that wouldnt you . IESH .

ALL the other race groups , EG : WHITES , COLOUREDS . .more

by jOE BLOG on May 15 2011, 00:04
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@Infowars
How could you possibly declare UCT is run by "spineless white "progressives""?

Progressives are those who have moved on and eschew racism in all its manifestations, e.g. also that kind of racism now manifest at UCT.

The whites . .more

by Soapy Joe on May 15 2011, 12:33
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Theory v Practical
Just over 2 years ago I visited the JHB Hospital Dental Unit, for treatment. Being a training hospital, we were treated by student doctors. After a few visits I noticed that there were fewer patients and doctors and was told that the professors had . .more

by Open Minded on May 15 2011, 13:23
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Whose truth is it?
@John Austin as long as you hold the view that your truth is the only truth we're both stark.
@ Joe Soap if you were to write exams in your second language and have your scripts marked by a first language person, you'd probably not do as well as you . .more

by Sipho on May 19 2011, 09:28
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of reflections after retiring
As a retired " intellectual",,I have to admit that we thought leaders often disappear up our own self- important apertures and totally lose sight of simple truths,this policy although well intended is just plain racist and the myopic ,over- involved . .more

by Pedro on May 19 2011, 12:37
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Where's wisdom of King Solomon
The reality of life is that if you're not flexible you stand to lose everything in the end. I can guarantee you that. Most African countries have been where we are, where nationalists try to accommodate everyone and they are constantly undermined to an . .more

by Sipho on May 20 2011, 13:28
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@Sipho and Solly
You have a point about all suffering when new African states fail,but you miss the point that nationalists ,by definition,don't try to accommodate everyone.
When nationalist leaders say whites are criminals and should be treated as such,and they . .more

by Pedro on May 21 2011, 08:25
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@Romi
I agree with you , Its is not apartheid in reverse as some of the people view it. I am an African Medical Student doing fourth year currently , we don't get special treatment because we are black all our examinations are standard whether you are black , . .more

by Nombuso@MediSkul on June 15 2011, 18:42
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Racial introspection being taught/forced
Forget the quantity vs quality debate! I'm a masters student at UCT in the commerce faculty. We have a visiting professor who is brilliant in his field but has unfortunately delved into racial grey-areas that can only be described as hurtful and . .more

by Anonymous on June 18 2011, 11:52
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wealth versus new money
everybody has their own views on these issues and yet fails to listen. Carry on shouting and being defensive or insult one another but you're going nowhere slowly. Be sensitive to the idea that our past sins play a pivotal role in this situation and some . .more

by anonymous on March 14 2012, 11:07
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