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Brett Murray's depiction of Zuma disgusting - The Presidency

Mac Maharaj
18 May 2012

Mac Maharaj says nobody has the right to violate the dignity and rights of others

Presidency disgusted at violation of President Zuma's rights

18 May 2012

The Presidency is shocked and disgusted at the grotesque painting by Brett Murray depicting President Jacob Zuma in an offensive manner.

We are amazed at the crude and offensive manner in which this artist denigrates the person and the office of the President of the Republic of South Africa.

The Presidency is concerned that Brett Murray fails to appreciate that freedom carries a deep responsibility. The President was amongst the primary architects of our Constitution and shall defend the rights enshrined in our Bill of Rights, including the freedom of artistic expression. However, in exercising these rights, people should at all times be conscious that they are not absolute. 

Nobody has a right to violate the dignity and rights of others while exercising their own. Other than his position as Head of State and as President of the ruling party, President Zuma as a citizen has a right to human dignity, which is enshrined in the Constitution of the Republic. No human being deserves to be denigrated in this shocking manner.

We are also concerned that the painting perpetuates a shocking new culture by some sections of the artistic world, of using vulgar methods of communicating about leading figures in the country, in particular the President. 

Intense hatred of the new democratic administration or the ruling party should not translate into distorting South Africa's value system of emphasising respect and of ensuring that disagreements are expressed in a cultured and civilised manner, which these artists are failing to do. It is shocking as well that some media houses find this distasteful work worth displaying on their websites and are eager to publish it repeatedly.

The President reserves his rights in this matter.

Statement issued by Mac Maharaj, The Presidency, May 18 2012

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Pretty fair reflection in my humble opinion
Wonder whatvthecwirld thinks of this person Zuma?

by Zondi on May 18 2012, 16:42
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Sue them!
What is next for artistic freedom of expression in South Africa? kiddie porn and snuff movies? Is not time to draw a line of what is publicly acceptable and meets the norms of South African society? The courts are the best way to decide these norms, not . .more

by . on May 18 2012, 16:44
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You get what you deserve
21 kids 6 wives 4 current wives probably a few girl friends ... What does he expect?

Anyway respect is not a word that springs to my mind given his behavior.

by Darwin on May 18 2012, 16:51
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Brett Murray's Zuma
I actually have not seen the picture yet. In principle I feel it is a bit low. But in mitigation I must say Mr. Zuma really asked for it, since he can't seem to keep his fly zipped up.
"Intense hatred of the new democratic administration or the . .more

by Fanandala on May 18 2012, 16:52
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Stay out of the Kitchen
We are disgusted by Zuma; he has violated our rights.
If he comes clean and has his day in court, he may regain our respect.
In the modern world, it is expected that public figures, who make pronouncements that directly effects are lives, means . .more

by The Clever Native on May 18 2012, 17:19
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You know a guy Pierre de Vos?
Well listen his advice before you spend our cash again

by tokolosh on May 18 2012, 17:24
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@ . (dot)
By its very nature genuine artistic expression can never be immoral, indecent or pornographic. It seems that most of the condemnation of this work of art stems from the opinion that it damages the personal dignity of President Zuma, or disrespects the . .more

by Romi on May 18 2012, 17:27
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protest art
No, ANC, protest art is not meant to be respectful and comfortable. It is meant to cut to the bone.

by Romi on May 18 2012, 17:30
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Dot dottie dottier
As I read your comments on other subjects I can not but think you somewhere missed out on a proper education. Your thinking and reasoning borders on that of a child.

Thank God we have a robust constitution to protect us from people like you. And . .more

by Wa-benzie on May 18 2012, 18:01
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zuma's tool
If Zuma behaved in a dignified manner, he would have been treated accordingly. Bottom line is: the man is a pig who has no regard for women and brings absolutely NO DIGNITY to the Presidency of South Africa. The sooner this man (with his waifs) is . .more

by krisjan on May 18 2012, 18:09
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@Romi
Well in the court of public opinion (and the law courts) artistic expression can be held to immoral, indecent or pornographic depending upon how and where it is presented. Artists and the media are not above the law. The courts get to decide what is . .more

by . on May 18 2012, 18:38
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@Wa-benzie
There is merit in thinking like a child at times...it helps in exposing the truth when reducing things to its most simple (i,e) if I have a disagreement with a neighbor is it morally and legally acceptable to take his picture and photo-shop it onto . .more

by . on May 18 2012, 18:47
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painting a vile buffoon
I have often wondered how my artistic licence ( I renewed it at Pick n Pay yeaterday along with my TV licence) would influence me in depicting a vile buffoon.
Brett Murray has sort of answered my muse.

by Plutarch on May 18 2012, 19:22
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Dotter, obviously you are a constitutional expert, then read P de Vos opinion
But you maybe find this interesting, hopefully you can forward this to your Apartheid's New Custodian's yes ANC as they are also incapable of rational thoughts.

Constitutional law expert Pierre de Vos said on his blog on Thursday that the party . .more

by Wa-Benzie-S-class on May 18 2012, 19:56
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More Dottier
Well the fact is as you say "...section 16(1)(c) allow such a thing on the basis that the constitution allows free speech....some believe that the constitution is not that absolute...
"

SOME BELIEVE. well the some's you talk off opinions . .more

by Wa-Benzie-S-class on May 18 2012, 20:06
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@Wa-Benzie-S-class
I had actually read De Vos's piece on his blog....you should take careful note of the following "It is true that no right is unlimited" and the weasel word "usually" not to mention "Our law often distinguishes between real depictions of individuals and . .more

by . on May 18 2012, 21:07
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Remember the good old days
Remember whan the arty-farty types were unanimously supportive of the ANC and cruelly took the P*** out of the Apartheid Broeders? How times have changed, I wonder how this happened?

by Guy Mullins on May 18 2012, 22:07
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Point, you had to read further.............
Our law often distinguishes between real depictions of individuals and art works and hardly ever allows for the censoring of the latter. For example, section 12 of the Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act [which prohibits hate . .more

by Wa-Beempie on May 18 2012, 22:07
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@Wa-Beempie
I geddit on the Wa....

...again watch out for the weasel words ..."hardly ever"...then you get to intent and "bona fide"...again the determination if it is truly a work of art or a political act is not for De Vos, its for a half decent . .more

by . on May 18 2012, 22:37
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Yes, the depiction is disgusting
But not as disgusting as Jacob 783's behaviour.

Had he kept his P**** inside instead of getting a friend's daughter pregnant, charged with rape and heaven knows what else, the picture would be unfaithful.
Had he not stolen from the state, . .more

by Racist in ANCspeak is someone who thinks (differently from them) on May 18 2012, 22:49
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I have to roll, the ladies await I have to eat sushi off their naked bods!
Shoeee! Luckily we have some decent size judges in SA which in this case leaves me with a wide smile as I know they will have sanity prevail and rational thoughts and guidance from our constitution will send the ANC posse packing.

It's time . .more

by Wa-Rover on May 18 2012, 22:59
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dignity
It is the individual that gives dignity to the office of the president. Zuma has no dignity and in fact is a disgrace to the office of the presidency. I support the artist - Zuma is fair game, his sexual antics are outrageous and as such he is fair game . .more

by THE BROWN MAN on May 19 2012, 00:13
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What a bunch of sore losers!
It can be argued the ANC showed disrespect for the Office of the President when it elected an individual of the calibre and proclivities of Jacob Zuma to that office.

Brett Murray's painting is, superficially, disgusting; but maybe he was . .more

by Mute Fool on May 19 2012, 00:25
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Mac
Careful Mac, the next picture might show you with your wallet hanging out.

by kevin on May 19 2012, 08:39
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@ . (dot)
The painting 'Un-mute my Tongue' by the artist Ayanda Mabulu depicts a President Zuma with his naked P**** enclosed in a crutch. Do you object to that painting as well and if not, why not?

by Romi on May 19 2012, 09:58
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How else do u
Depict a D*** Spot.
I can't wait for this to go to court.
Then we all win, Brett gets even more famous, the painting fetches an even higher price.
And above all, the ANC shows up as D**** that they really are !!!

by Show er head on May 19 2012, 11:39
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Dignity you!
H ha ha ha ha ha hah a h ah aha ah aha ha every "Nobody has a right to violate the dignity and rights of others while exercising their own"

What about all the people who got killed, mugged, raped in this country, haven't they got any dignity. . .more

by Mike on May 19 2012, 15:45
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@Romi
I located 'Un-mute my Tongue' by the artist Ayanda Mabulu using google.

To answer your question-Do you object to that painting as well and if not, why not?

Yes, I object to it. The reason is I do not believe a living person should . .more

by . on May 19 2012, 16:22
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@Mike
Yes those killed do have dignity, but the media do not publish the photographs or paintings of the corpses because of respect for the dead and the surviving family members...why should living people by ridiculed in this manner? How about we take a . .more

by . on May 19 2012, 16:27
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SA joining the nazis and the stalinists
Only state approved art for us now.
The ideologues of officialdom will have to set their seal of approval on all art produced.
art will be nationalised.
what a bunch of ridiculous twerps all those defenders of "legal" positions on . .more

by Cassandra on May 19 2012, 16:58
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@Cassandra
But not as amusing at the thought of artistic expression allowing full frontal nudity on the page of every newspaper, billboard, MMS, websites and TV shows (all hours)...especially those depicting you in all your sagging glory and exposed to the world for . .more

by . on May 19 2012, 17:20
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@poiticsweb reident sophist
you do exagerate just a teeny weeny bit don't you?
every newspaper? what?? certainly not The New Age?
ridiculous assertion
every billboard/ risible nonsense
every website-- ag man you are a child
Tv shows (allhours) er, name . .more

by cassandra on May 20 2012, 17:28
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@Cassandra
Are you struggling to understand English? TV shows (all hours) [i.e] post this event (if its judged OK by courts.... the door for all types of filfth and pornography of anyone (consenting or not) would be distributed in any setting (without age . .more

by . on May 20 2012, 18:12
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@ . (dot)
Thank you for answering my question. Although I don't agree with you because of my feeling for and understanding of art, I do respect you for not being a hypocrite. Sometimes pornography can be disguised as art in the hands of charlatans, but Brett Murray . .more

by Romi on May 20 2012, 18:32
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@ the furious empty barrel
Are you suggesting that David was "ridiculed and degraded'.
Now to a different point.
Glib words flow from your superficail pen.
define your snappy comment "viewed in age appropriate settings" as it applies to "historical figures"
I . .more

by Cassandra on May 20 2012, 21:16
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So say all of us.
Hot dowg Jacob.
All double cross that zipper one day.

by Khosa girls on May 21 2012, 00:04
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@Cassandra
Well first the statue David in the era when it was produced was not of a living human being but of a historical figure. Also different eras (and cultures) have different prevailing social attitudes.

Second "viewed in age appropriate settings" . .more

by . on May 21 2012, 05:25
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The way to respond
As stated in a reply to another article on Politicsweb today:
And in Canada this week, a Canadian artist also revealed a portrait of the Canadian Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, showing him stretched out totally naked on a chaise-lounge with a dog . .more

by Anthony Caenazzo on May 21 2012, 11:06
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Mac Maharaj says nobody has the right
Mac Maharaj says nobody has the right to violate the dignity and rights of others.
So who gave the ANC the right to violate the dignity of the poor, the sick, the school children or South Africa's road users?

by Anthony Caenazzo on May 21 2012, 11:11
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THE painting
Many of don't care about JZ's dignity etc because he's been such a spineless president.
Corruption, cadre-deployment, wasted funds, unemployment growing; all this happened under his watch. And now he's hoping for a second term.

by jelry on May 21 2012, 12:08
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Zuma disgusting - The Presidency.....?....
......aaaah, THAT painting.....

JZ attests that: "I-feel-personally-offended...."

Curiously, that ....is also what the rape victim felt, but the court was the rapists friend.

22 children in & out of wedlock & 3 official wives, . .more

by John Austin on May 21 2012, 12:53
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Disrespect
This is disrespect, how can you expose private parts of any human bein? whether in a form of art. One would also be embarassed to have someone do this to them.

by ziyanda Gwangqa on May 21 2012, 15:19
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@Mac
Come on Mac such a small P**** can not offend anyone?

by Koos on May 21 2012, 18:13
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@Gwangqa
Agreed but then I am hugely embarrassed to have this person as the President of South Africa. So many people are embarrassed and thus the painting represents their view of him in an artistic way. You have your view and there are many who have a completely . .more

by Siphomoni on May 21 2012, 19:46
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Muck Maharaj.
Muck, you are such a Choet. Oh yes, you only came slithering out of the woodwork into your current position once Kadar Asmal passed away. He was to be respected , not a cheap opportunist like you.
Anyway, your main problem with the portrait of the . .more

by Zakhele on May 21 2012, 20:18
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U re lost all of u
All of u guys re totally lost. How would u feel if it was yo father or mother with exposed genitals. U re not serious @ all. U seem to lavish yoselves in hatred and violence, laced with poisonous insults and Satanic deeds. It is unfortunate that u shall . .more

by fanuel Nsingo on May 21 2012, 20:48
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@ Fanuel
Man! Your (lack of) ability to write and spell explains your thinking. That is a lot of hate in a so-called christian, don't you think? You and dottie must be friends, you are just as confused.

by CA Bez on May 22 2012, 19:10
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