You stole the land, and the mines are ours - Julius Malema

MIDRAND (Sapa) - The nationalisation of mines in South Africa is going to happen, ANC Youth League president Julius Malema said on Friday.

"We seek to implement the ANC's Freedom Charter and it says that mineral resources must be owned by the people," he told the annual conference of the Black Management Forum at Midrand.

"We want to transfer mines to the ownership of the people because we know that the little money the people will make will be invested in social responsibility."

Malema said in Botswana a mine could only be owned privately with a 49-percent stake, with 51 percent owned by government.

Mining companies in South Africa had been disrespectful as they were not put off if graves were found around a mining site during exploration. They went ahead and mined.

"They don't care if someone is dead," Malema said.

If the people owned the mines, they would know not to tamper with the dead and the spirits.

"Capitalism doesn't know spirits but we know spirits," Malema said.

Turning to the cost of electricity, he said people were paying a lot of money for power which was generated by coal.

"This coal is mined privately -- we buy it, use it to generate electricity and sell it at an abnormal price to the poor people who really own the coal."

Malema again complained that no "African child" had ever been made finance minister in the ANC government.

"We're preoccupied with the markets which means we can't appoint an African child as finance minister," he said.

"Since 1994, things have been very difficult in the ministry of finance, and here I'm talking succession, not that someone be removed."

Malema denied questioning the struggle credentials of any individual.

"But we should see one of our own successfully running the economy. The markets must learn from the ANC. The ANC is a teacher and has taught many people lessons," he said.

The land in South Africa has been stolen from its people, ANC Youth League president Julius Malema said on Friday.

"At the negotiations pre-199, they said to us that for them to agree we must accept the willing buyer-willing seller idea," he told the annual conference of the Black Management Forum at Midrand.

"But now we must say we can't buy the land from you because you stole it from us," he said to laughter from conference delegates.

Malema said political freedom meant nothing if the people did not control the means of production.

"The means of production are still in the hands of white males - not even females."

He said this did not mean whites would be driven into the sea.

"We must live together in harmony, but whites must open up a place and let us participate. They must allow us to be equal partners."

Malema also had a message for whites leaving the country:

"Don't leave before you transfer your skills."

He said freedom should not be reduced to satisfying service delivery demands or changing street names.

"We didn't fight to change the names of the streets. We fought to control the economy of this country."

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We didn't fight to change the names of the streets. We fought to control the economy of this country."

Julius Malema

 

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Yo juju! go boy! Brrrrr.....baby Juju had a stand-up comedy again. i bet you my last Zimbabwean dollar no comrade will challenge baby Juju. by Nduna on October 09 2009, 17:48 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

See that...take a picture... it is my middle finger sticking up in the air... by KKK on October 09 2009, 19:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Don't knee jerk... A lot of what he says is true though. Not ALL, but quite a chunk of what he said had me nodding in agreement. Nobody fought just to change street names. And those that leave the country without transferring skills should be condemned. We have . .more to live together but the whites need to allow space for the black community to feel welcome to share in the fruits of our country. Learning a historically black language will go a long way in doing that. . .less by Aphile on October 09 2009, 20:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

4 sure Juju We didn't fight to fill up seats in Parliament and own keys to the Union Buildings. They mustn't insult our intelligence. by spikiri on October 09 2009, 20:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Oh please!!! Julie is talking his usual rubbish - political rhetoric guaranteed to stir up the masses and get the ANC supporters up in arms. What is he talking about that the government should not buy back land? If this continues unchecked, he will start the . .more whole 'one settler, one bullet' mindset going again. There are black leaders who are telling their followers that they should steal from the whites, because the whites have stolen from them in the past and that thdy shouldn't get caught (I quote Faraday Nkoane from an article in the Daily Sun recently). What Julius is saying is no less controversial or threatening to the whites of this country. Zimbabwe is slowly starting to look like a reality in SA with "leaders" making these sort of dangerous statements. Somebody has to do something!! . .less by Samjank on October 09 2009, 22:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Spirits? The only spirits Jimmy knows are the spirits you find in bottles. So whilst he is sabre rattling, it will be interesting to see what comes out in the wash and what little private deals he is making in the background to enrich himself. by Peter Peter on October 10 2009, 02:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

??? Transfer skills? Does the inkwenkwe believes that skills can simply be handed over, like land and mines and other assets? If so, why couldn't he just 'take' skills in maths, woodwork, whatever, and pass his matric exams? duh! by Saffer on October 10 2009, 09:39 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Growing Ant-White Sentiment Geez, how much more evidence do you need that the Zim path is a real possibility!? Same mentality these Comrades. You've got 10 years before the Comrades start to take what they cannot create. Another reinforcement of the Africa stereotype. by Ken Doll on October 10 2009, 15:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Aphile "Learn a historically black language...". Are you joking, African languages are irrelevant to a modern world in which Africa doesn't feature. Remember Comrade Julius says there's no Pedi word for hermaphrodite...um, of course not. by Sharon on October 10 2009, 15:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Advanced Syphilis - it is becoming my only logical explanation Surely no leader can be quite this dumb. And what is really scary is how ignorant must be the people who think that this is a good leader. Suddenly South African's who don't have the right skin colour are not "people" - sound familiar ? . .more Wasn't the ANC famous for it's non racialism at one stage ? It also seems that Communism is nowadays very big on "spirits" - funny, never read that in any of Lenin's writings. As a personal preference I prefer adults to run the financial affairs of a country. Children should remain at school. As for skin colour, that is irrelevant. Having talent is probably the best criteria. In the shortlist selection, I suggest rejecting any applicant with an I* that's not at least 10 times higher than Malema's. If Julius was in business, he's free to compete against any other competitor, no matter what their skin colour. For 20 years there has been nothing stopping him. Unfortunately, he would fail miserably because ignorance and pure stupidity tend to get culled fairly quickly in business. Julius is a school Dunce who had political connections and got a top job because he can whip uneducated voters into a excitable state for the benefit of a party that seems to have less and less credibility with every day that passes. The pitifulness of it all is excruciating and just so embarrassing to SA as a nation . .less by Sad days on October 10 2009, 23:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

What is the Black Management Forum? What kind of a forum invites Julius Malema to speak at its annual conference? Tells us how seriously we should take this forum .... by s.n. on October 11 2009, 18:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Saffer Dude,TS Elliott could not have said it better. Spot on! by GeoffK on October 11 2009, 21:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Take the land??????? Mnr Malema,if you dont mind.Please tell the people what alnd was stolen.But be accurate. Then we can go to the discussion table and you welcome to that land.But the land that is rightfully ours.Please give that back. Thank you. by Alkie on October 12 2009, 01:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

skills I tried to teach them my skils. But they did not want to learn and work hard the same way I had to learn those skills. Skills can only be transfer to those that are willing to work hard and those that are dedicated. Most . .more of the time they think sklls is handed out on a silver platter.In the case of the ANC it mut be a golden platter set with diamonds. . .less by Alkie on October 12 2009, 02:07 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Mines Julie must remember, that a mine is a hole in the ground. Making it work productively requires a lot more than just giving it to the people. by Brown on October 12 2009, 06:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Here you go Julius ...... Here is the land. Take it, its yours ..... Now, give me back that Mercedes you drive. Also, turn off the electricity, if you are sick, go to a witch doctor and not a hospital, no fridge, lights .... in fact, that house of yours ..... give it to . .more me. You since, village idiot, these are things that arived in Africa with the white man. So, if we are going to go down a path of restoring to status quo, I am afraid, all those trappings of first world economies must go as well ...... . .less by Realist on October 12 2009, 07:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

malema and the land issue To begin with,land of all things cannot be stolen but the rethoric goes down well especially with the dimwitted. What's really scary about this clown,is that his demagoguery is extremely dangerous in the South African sphere.Like with . .more Mugabe his antics go unchecked by the ANC because of their tacit support of what he says.As for the future of South Africa,the learned reader may avail himself to the findings of Prof. John P. Rushton according to whom,it seems,it is not possible for the Africans to do better on that wonderful continent as has been seen so far,for reasons of genetics. . .less by fritz on October 12 2009, 07:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Julius DUH duh. The village idiot has spoken, so what? Accept that idiots will say idiotic things, ignore, and move on. Julius was elected by the rabid racist mob that cuurently inhabit the ANCYL; he is paid to say these idiotic things; he should be . .more arraigned for hate speech. . .less by flebus on October 12 2009, 07:56 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@s.n. The Black Management Forum is a management leadership organisation headed up by one Jimmy Manyi, a racist retard of the same ilk as Julius. Manyi says the organisation's mission is to bring about transformation in South Africa. To date it has attempted to . .more do this through promoting the racist policy of "representivity", which amounts to racial bean counting to treat the supposed symptoms of racism rather than the cause. Yet, disingenuously, Manyi proclaims "We represent a non-racial South Africa" and "The BMF is a non-racial organisation. We have white members as well." This is typical of the racist mentality and dishonesty of the ANC which aggrssively pursues racist policies supposedly to "promote" non-racialism. Unsurprisingly Manyi has been appointed to high office by the ANC; to wit, as Director General of the Dept of Labour under the ministry of that other well-known racist and Mugabe supporter Membathisi Mdladlana. . .less by flebus on October 12 2009, 08:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Inflammatory If something is not done about idiot Julius and soon, we face the very real possibility of a civil war. by SebastianH on October 12 2009, 08:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

I think the H1 got 2 u Comrade. Something has consumed ur little bit of grey matter that you might have had when you were 2. Get a live u dingbat. The BMF must also be limited in their intelectual pool when they invite idiots like Boy Baboona. by Village Idiot. on October 12 2009, 09:14 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

You are a racist Malema You are a true and complete racist...Go back to your stupid little world and your stupid little life...no one wants to hear you. You are a threat to democracy and you are an idiot. by Dee on October 12 2009, 10:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

With any luck The ANC will be chucked out of power sooner rather than later and clowns like Juju will have to find another job by Alto on October 12 2009, 10:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

freedom chater "peaple shall share countr's wealth". mines owners is very angry to cde Julius. by Settlers phamela on October 12 2009, 11:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Guess who will benefit in this nationalisation fiasco? BMF members who invited and wrote a speech for Malema! ZANU-PF style, nationalize farms and give to Mugabe's wife and Zim Reserve Bank thugs!!! by Mute Fool on October 12 2009, 11:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Spot on Cde President! Some of us will always raise our disagreement whenever Cde Julius says anything we do not find sense in, however on issues he raised in his address to the BMF Conference, He was just presenting the embodiment of the meaning of our National Democratic . .more Revolution. We need to charge of the means of production as a State. I am so impressed Cde President of the ANCYL Julius Malema. Those that always find anything to redicule you must be ignored because they idiots themselves since an argument with an idiot makes both you idiots. . .less by Kanego Thete on October 12 2009, 11:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The Land Julius Malema has tried to steal the policies of the PAC, thinking we are too weak to challenge his distortions of our policy. In the first place, dear Zuma loyalist, we hold that there is only one race - the human race. it is racists who make a fetish . .more out of our differences. We define an African not by the skin colour of that person, but by his loyalty and identity with Africa. Certainly land deprivation and wealth inequalities need to be corrected sooner rather than later. That must be done on addressing the currently disadvantaged with socialist policies, not racist grabs. . .less by Mafirofiro on October 12 2009, 12:18 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Viva Julie the sad thing is for a change he is right, it is for this reason that chris Hanny was assasinated, we are not western country therefore cannot be gorvened as such. state resources should be owned by the Government (leadership) to finance . .more social development and improve the quality of delivery. increasing electricity while we produce the coal to generate it is nonesense. Plus most of the mines are not even owned by white South African but the Brithish-American alliance partners. i support this movement we need to nationalise banks and state resources to decrease the heavy interest rates and high price of living which only benefits overseas investors. i ask this how do we produce gold and platinum but cannot affort it? produce coal and have to buy it back? why are interest rates running at 0.25% in the 'strongest economy' (USA) and over 10% here at home. nationalisation will benefit all South African and not only black. be logical about this its not a race issue but a policy one. . .less by nolo on October 12 2009, 12:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Stolen Land? I recently joined the BMF with the hope of establishing contact for my new business venture and I intend to to just that. I am embarrassed that Julius was invited as a guest. The guy made a long drab speech about stolen land and so-on. Based on his . .more expression of history that means we must break uo the Zulu nation into all the individual kingdoms that were annexed by Shaka to create the Zulu Kingdom. . .less by Sdoz on October 12 2009, 12:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Spott on the sad thing is for a change he is right, it is for this reason that chris Hanny was assasinated, we are not western country therefore cannot be gorvened as such. state resources should be owned by the Government (leadership) to finance . .more social development and improve the quality of delivery. increasing electricity while we produce the coal to generate it is nonesense. Plus most of the mines are not even owned by white South African but the Brithish-American alliance partners. i support this movement we need to nationalise banks and state resources to decrease the heavy interest rates and high price of living which only benefits overseas investors. i ask this how do we produce gold and platinum but cannot affort it? produce coal and have to buy it back? why are interest rates running at 0.25% in the 'strongest economy' (USA) and over 10% here at home. nationalisation will benefit all South African and not only black. be logical about this its not a race issue but a policy one. . .less by Letlhogonolo on October 12 2009, 12:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Young revolutionaries be on guard!!!!!!!!! Thula mama, Thula mama, Thula mama, Thula mama Thula mama, Thula mam' iyo Thula mama, mama mama........ Thula mama, Thula mama, Thula mama, Thula mama Thula mama, Thula mam' iyo Thula mama, mama mama........ Thula mama, Thula mama, Thula . .more mama, Thula mama Thula mama, Thula mam' iyo Thula mama, mama mama........ . .less by tsetse on October 12 2009, 13:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Kanego Thete Did you refer to him as "Comrade"? Are you joking Che Guevarra! Its almost 2010 the locals are still on about "Revolutions" and "Comrades". Haha, you're just reinforcing the backward sterotype caricature of Africa. I've never seen any "revolution" here, . .more not gonna happen sorry! . .less by Sharon on October 12 2009, 13:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Nolo You have ZERO knowledge of basic economics, frightening! Nationalise banks so you can lower interest rates?? Now that's true African style. Coal has an in-ter-nat-ion-al price, no matter who produces it! by Ken Doll on October 12 2009, 14:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Mine ownership Malema is spott on on this issue., he is beginning to make sense. The ANC as the mother body must now do something about this. Cowardness is a sin, remember!!!!!!!! by NS on October 12 2009, 14:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

It's time comrades ... Lets nationalise them - banks and mines. That way, we can run them with the efficiency of other parastatals like Eskom, SAA, Water etc. In fact, once nationalised, the challenge will be to see how quickly we can strip the assetts for our . .more comrades, before completely wiping out productive output. I can just picture the scandal ....... banks loans decimated by fraud. Millions left peniless .... and all that money will be ours to buy cars and whiskey. . .less by Realist on October 12 2009, 15:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Nationalise everything! Why not? Why should some of us be rich and others poor? Let's all be poor excepting for the top ANC fat cats. Nationalise the mines and everything else and tax the profits for the Party as they do in ZIM. Nationalise the Reserve Bank and print as . .more much money as everybody wants. Give everybody R10 000 000; just print the stuff! Then we will all be equally "rich" as we will all have lots of money; soon the money won't buy much, but so what? Just print more, like they did in Zim see. Then we will all have more money, and Zuma will be applauded by all Black Africans everywhere, just like Mugabe. Would be cool, wouldn't it? Viva Julius! Viva all other stupid are soles! . .less by Oompah on October 12 2009, 22:57 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Nolo Nolo, in another forum you called me an idiot. Allow me to point out your own idiocy: - Some state resources, such as SAA, SABC, Eskom and so forth, are already owned by government. Any person with a brain can see the failure in those . .more enterprises. - Electricity prices are set by your mates at Eskom, NOT private enterprise. That is already owned by the govenment. Nothing to do with private industry. - What possible argument do you have that mines and banks will be any different? They will become employment agencies for ANC cadres and efficiencies will decrease. - Interest rates, again, are set by market forces, not some obscure person in a dark room. You want to lower interest rates to American levels? Increase your productivity. Nationalising banks and mines won't do that - trust me. - Where in the world has nationalisation worked? It's simple - when people have no direct reward for their labour, they don't labour. That is why you will find that it is always the bottom 50% of a population that calls for nationalisation. They want the reward without the effort. Therefore, dear Nolo, it apears if your shocking ignorance makes you the idiot. Leave the intellectual debates to those who knowwhat they are taking about -you go back to playing Pacman now. . .less by K25 on October 14 2009, 00:22 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Melema DO IT , DO IT , DO IT .HA HA HA HA HA . ZIMBABWE HERE WE COME HA HA HA HA , MASS UNEMPLOYMENT HERE WE COME HA HA HA HA , DO IT DO IT DO IT . DONT TALK DO IT . RSA WILL BE ANOTHER AFRICAN BEGGING BOWL . THE WHITE GUY . .more IN THE PICTURE , IS HE MAD . . .less by Devil on November 18 2009, 21:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Facts Giverment cannot run Eskom, SABC or any other state own enterprise, how will they be able to run mines. People like Julias Malema keep stiring racism and we do not need this if we want to address the real issues in South Africa. How many jobs has he . .more created by his utterings. None. Julius, stop trying to be the next president of South AFrica, first proof that you are a worthy leader by caring for people. . .less by JS on November 19 2009, 07:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

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