Whites must accept African leadership - Malema

BLOEMFONTEIN (Sapa) - Do not be afraid to confront issues of race, African National Congress Youth League president Julius Malema told Free State students on Friday.

"It is a most sensitive issue; while you speak against it you are declared a racist. If you are not strong, you will retreat," he said in Bloemfontein.

Malema was speaking at the University of the Free State during the launch by the SA Students' Congress of a "Right to Learn Campaign".

He said "those who have oppressed us", should be pressed to show remorse and accept that African leadership was ruling the country.

"They have rejected" olive branches extended by former president Nelson Mandela and President Jacob Zuma.

"They do not participate in anything that is of national importance, they do not observe national days, they do not support national initiatives,"Malema said.

"... they do not care about the development of this country, they are forever obsessed with whether they are going to be attacked or robbed."

Malema said white people had been taught from an early age that a black person could never be trusted, that "a black person has a potential of being a criminal, a black person has a potential of being a murderer".

Malema said the ANC had fought for a non-racial society and was building a non-racial society.

However, he said this would not be reached if national questions such as race, gender or class were not addressed.

Malema said South Africa's freedom was useless while the country's economic power was still in the hands of white males.

"There is nothing transformed in the economy of South Africa and for as long as we don't take a radical position to the transformation of the economy it will forever be dominated by white males."

Malema said there were usually no problems with debates such as gender issues and about whether the working class should be the ruling class.

However, when the alliance wanted to fight the monopoly of white capital in society, it was branded racist.

Malema told the students the government would never be able to supply free education only through collecting taxes.

"We need extra income. Where is this? It is beneath the soil of South Africa - that is where we can get the money," he said.

Malema said the government would like to guarantee the ownership of the country's minerals for the people of this country.

The government would be prepared to go into partnership with the private sector in the mining sector, but government must hold the majority share.

The ANC youth leader said the working class should be able to indicate what they wanted government to do with the money made from mines.

"That way we know there is public participation in the process," Malema said.

"We do not pay tax, because we are government but Anglo Platinum must still pay tax after declaring dividends with us," he said to huge cheers from the group.

Turning to the event itself, Malema echoed local student leaders' unhappiness that the meeting were held at the university's Rag Farm, removed from the central part of the campus, blaming the university's white Afrikaner management.

"There is an evil spirit at the UFS. The evil spirit must be confronted, that evil spirit is deep-rooted at the university and that is racism," he said.

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[Julius Malema] said 'those who have oppressed us', should be pressed to show remorse and accept that African leadership was ruling the country. 'They have rejected' olive branches extended by former president Nelson Mandela and President Jacob Zuma. 'They do not participate in anything that is of national importance, they do not observe national days, they do not support national initiatives,' Malema said."

 

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Black leadership Black leadership will destroy South Africa. If people like Malema becomes a leader after Zuma it will be destroyed even faster. Like Haiti. The black leaders there were not able to do anything for the people of Haiti, despite being liberated from . .more slavery for more than 200 years. Aristide gets R.1.7mil. a month from the South African Government plus everything else is free for him and his family. Yet he has millions in bank accounts around the world. Viva black leadership, Viva. David Goldstein Stuttgart, Germany . .less by David Goldstein on January 24 2010, 23:24 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Race I love the sensitive manner in which Julie approaches this `most sensitive' issue: He sensitively shouts his broadsides to a cheering student audience in full view of every media avenue possible. And to what end? Why, to build a . .more `non racial society' of course!. And by the way , (to put it `sensitively) all whiteys are olive branch-refusing, power hogging, crime obsessed, unremorseful , non patriots who simply refuse to accept black leadership... Aah I don't know about you but that makes me feel patriotic all over.... . .less by CM on January 24 2010, 23:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The "Dream" Ah yes, the "Mandela non racial dream" - how did it go - we would have intelligent, non racial leaders proudly taking this country to the great heights we deserve - instead we have an ANC that believes that "non racial" means practising reverse apartheid . .more until everything is demographically balanced out and who also doesn't seem capable of locating intelligent leadership so they give us fools like Malema ... and when people point out that he is a fool, then they conclude that "Whites are still racist" so therefore the reverse apartheid policies should be continued with enthusiasm . Ahhh, The madness of the ANC today. The reality is, of course, that the Rainbow Nation non racial" dream is still alive and well - it just lives in the DA nowadays, having long ago been abandoned by the ANC in their lust for greed and corruption. . .less by Sad Days on January 25 2010, 05:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

taught from an early age Highest crime rate in the world and white murders ? Named: Survival. "care about the development" What development ? HM Youth soon to be HM foot soldiers. by old, female on January 25 2010, 06:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Black Leadership Well at least ESKOM is in competent hands. (incompetent ands?) by THRESHOLD on January 25 2010, 06:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Oh Julius, Jooolius All whites in this country accept black rule, haven't you noticed, we have black rule and therefore anyone who does not accept it has left. Okay, now for the nitty gritty, Black rule and Black Leadership are two completely different things. . .more Black rule we have, black leadership is sadly lacking. If it actually exists, could we have some please? Leaders drive things forward, not harp on about how things would only work better if this and that were different. . .less by Robbie the Grape on January 25 2010, 06:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Government partnership The only reason for the partnership is because picinins like Julie do not have the ability, knowledge or the balls to do the work. A mine is a hole in the ground Julie - you have to brains to get the ore out. So without white boy, you are ......... by Brown on January 25 2010, 06:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Self-destructive A British diplomat, after spending several terms inAfrica, used the word self-destructive. Is this applicable to South Africa? Only time will tell. by Jakes Jacobs on January 25 2010, 06:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Potential murderers... Hey Julius - what do you expect us to think after you and your mates at the ANCYL keep threatening to shoot people who get in their way ? by Abacus on January 25 2010, 07:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The basics The word "Leadership" implies people with exceptional qualities leading those with less exceptional qualities. South African "Black Leadership" does not qualify as per this definition. Black SA has attained it's "Leadership" status not . .more through having excetional qualities, but simply because it is in the majority. Blacks are in the majority because as a race they breed much faster than Whites - put simply, they managed to outf*** us. In the breeding category they are champions, and also in the category of self annialation and destroyers of human progress, WHEREVER they find themselves in this world. In the Leadership and Managament category, WORLDWIDE, they are a turbocharged disaster. As David Goldstein says above - 200 years of Independance in Haiti, and it was the poorest country on Earth even before the quake - imagine if SA has the same world ranking after 200 years of "freedom" - what a useless race. . .less by Andy on January 25 2010, 07:01 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Thanks Juliaaaas Hee hee hee hee... Ha ha ha hee hee ha ha ha ha ha. Oh man, I really thought this was going to be a boring week. Juliaas for president. We already know that academic qualification is not a requirement. by Charles Scheepers on January 25 2010, 07:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

According to Julies thinking Well, according to dumb Julie, the actions of a few determine the perceptions of the whole. So, by his argument, if some whites are racist, all must be so. Unfortrunately, if we are to be fair, and apply what we know, we must then conclude that all . .more blacks are like Julie, illiterate, racist, uneducated buffoons ........ but of course, we don't do that, cause we know that all people are individuals, and that in a truly non racial society, people are judged by character and behaviour not colour. Sadly, what we are witnessing is the rebirth of pathological politics. We saw it with Hitler. Stalin, Pol Pot and Mugabe. When you cannot deliver, find a scapegoat, and work the masses up into a raging frenzy against this "enemy". By the time they realise it is a red herring, it's too late ........ Unfortunately today, whites in SA are that scapegoat for the inability of the ANC to deliver. . .less by Realist on January 25 2010, 07:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The parasitic nature of black leadership Last figures I saw was that whites still pay around 80% of taxes so perhaps the tax slaves should consider suggesting that the "black" leadership stop parasiting on the whites. by Wendy on January 25 2010, 07:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Malema is a A*R*S*E*H*O*L*E ! by As the stomach turns on January 25 2010, 07:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Is there any truth in what Julius is saying? Or as usual, are we going to kill the messenger. I think we must seriously discuss this question because, this is not an issue that Julius should be raising if things were okay. This is a question non black people should have been . .more raising among themselves, and dealing with as 'Africans'. It is a question that their leadership, and here I am talking about 'gatekeepers' in the non-black communities. Now, as much as I don't agree with Julius on a number of issues, here, agree with him or not, he raises a question that is important to our 'national identity' as a people, that is if you buy the idea that 'South Africa belongs to all those who live in it, black and white' together. This is I think in the 1955 Kliptown Charter of the ANC. So, in some respects, Malema cannot act outside of that Charter and the mandates of his organization, and he is duty bound to abide by them. I would be more troubled if this question was raised by and Africanist, on the other hand Malema admittedly or not, knowingly or not, he should follow and find the path to non-racialism. But of a long time ANC has been believing that you can to that stage of non-racialism, by starting with a well defined 'white' and a non-defined black. You can't move from 'nonetity' to anywhere. You first have to be...and this a good start. Lets talk. . .less by Papadi on January 25 2010, 07:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Go Juju Go Comrade Julius Malema's politics improve everyday. One thing he is extremely good at is addressing the most importnat issues affecting society. He does not shy away from stating things the way they are. It is leaders like Malema that will . .more take South Africa forward to a non-racial democratic society. We all know how racist the Free State is, even English South African's know and obviously so do the Afrikaners. No one has stood up to address this racism Malema is setting the right tone. There is certainly no need to be scared to confront racists. No need at all, after all the only reason that white South African's are arrogant is that they have been able to discrimate blacks in various ways which has resulted in the systematic exclusion of blacks from participating in all developmental programmes and activities. But it is not entirely the white mans fault that blacks are oppressed in this country. Blacks are to blame because they accept it, the accept they way things are. Blacks look up to whites when in actual fact whites want blacks to be underdeveloped. Biko once said the most powerful weapon in the hands of the oppessor is the mind of the oppressed. . .less by swart gevaar on January 25 2010, 07:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

and so many whites must prove Julius right? what is it with some white people that they must respond to racial taunting by malema with the worst racial diatribe of their own. Malema uses the race card because he lacks the intelligence to articulate a reasonable argument. One has to assume that . .more those racist white responses are borne of the same lack of mental capacity. . .less by Realist on January 25 2010, 07:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Race hate speech In terms of this countries constitution anybody irrespective of race can take a position of leadership. What whites reject is exactly what Malema is alluding to and that is leadership positions are exclusively for black Africans whether they deserve . .more it or not just like Maroga feels he is entitled to R85m for his non-performance. . .less by Mike on January 25 2010, 07:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ Andy You rage on about lack of progress, but you can't even spell or structure a sentance. Goodness man, is this the calibre of work you produce in your place of employment ..... that could be what is holding you back in life. Target your rage at your own . .more incompetence, its not the fault of black people you are a failure. . .less by Bryan on January 25 2010, 07:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Well, let's test if Julius is the last racist in South Africa The hall mark of a racist is prejudice based on race. Aaah, nods from a many black heads, but certainly not all. And nods from many white heads but not all. Some trouble makers point out the stinking reputation of demographics assocated with Naza racist . .more attacks on the Jews. So far so good. The article opens with "ANCYL president says whites believe all blacks are potential murderers and criminals ". Why, this is racist prejudice, the identified hallmark of a racist, if it is indeed true. The rest of the article shows it is probably true. The label can clearly be extended to the cheering crowd. Are we seeing the social seeds of the new proudly South African Kmer Rouge? Thank you Julius for being an unlikelly spokesperson for all whites. . .less by Free the Rest on January 25 2010, 07:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Leadership Unfortunately this nefarious social order of ours no longer accords the prizes to the most meritorious men and women . It rather crowns the dishonest , the unscrupulous , the scoundrel and the swindler , the exploiter and other misfits . Is . .more it any wonder that this environmental retard is now quoted aa if he was some authority on psychology . Talk about zebras impersonating racehorses !!! Methinks Malema's ilk sublimate their hatred into a philosophy, the philosophy of anti-excellence , in order to render inaudible the inner voice that tells them that their failure is entirely their own fault . .less by Green Room on January 25 2010, 07:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

I'm so sorry, JuJu You've made me see the error of my ways. From now on, I will not get nervous when a group of young black males approaches me. I will however be very careful of little old white ladies, because, after all, my perception of who commits crime is totally . .more inaccurate. Much like the way the USA unfairly targets young Muslim males at airports... . .less by Afrikaner on January 25 2010, 07:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Praise singer Malema The fundamental departure in ideolo is that Malema...and his leaders are a collective, they are in other words tribal. The tribal leaders "own" resources including the product of the tribe. First world people are on the other hand individuals who are . .more sovereign individuals and expect some return for their investment. "Leaders" are expected to deliver something in return for taxes. Collective ideologies are dragging us back into the dark ages. . .less by Wendy on January 25 2010, 08:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Charles Scheepers You're joking but I seriously support JuJu for president. Every time he opens his mouth, he cures 1000 whites of their rainbow nation delusions and converts another 1000 former liberals into those that support secession, and the partition of Azania into a . .more large portion (let's call it the African heaven on earth, aka Haiti) , and a smaller white homeland, aka the little piece which keeps the rest from starving. I am JuJu's number one fan for that reason. JuJu for president! . .less by Afrikaner on January 25 2010, 08:06 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

No problem accepting African Leadership We have some great leaders, bring on the Tokyo's of this world, people of his stature. But people who cannot pass wood work and are just plain dumb, then I have a problem calling them leaders no matter what there colour is. This is not about colour, this . .more is about leading and being a true leader. Like Nelson Mandela was and still is. We have some many worthy Black people within the ANC. How on earth did Zuma and his sidekick Malema ever get into the lime light. And I'm sure there is a worthy person for the ANCYL how is it that you have Malema as your leader, surely you can do better than that. Is that the best you can do... If that is then wow are the black people and white people going to suffer in this country. The poor will suffer the most when SA becomes the next ZIM. just look there who is suffering the most. Those who got out did and are now farming for Zambia and other african countries while ZIM burns and starves. . .less by Brendan on January 25 2010, 08:13 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Black leadership We had one decent black leader, viz. Nelson Mandela who is regarded as a deluded sell-out by many blacks. In his time there was the promise and the hope of a Rainbow Nation which was withdrawn and dashed by virulent racism of two-nations Thabo Mbeki. . .more And now we have moved on to true black leadership, with a president kept out of jail by manipulation and sabotage of the criminal justice system; a man with multiple wives and many children, an example for our kids to emulate? And racist employment policies and practices where incompetent blacks get employment ahead of skilled whites, and white entrepreneurs are required to have "black equity partners" who invariably provide neither equity, nor skill, nor expertise to the venture, but only the fact of their blackness to a "BEE scorecard". That's the nature of the "olive branch" which is forced down the white entrepreneurial throat. Of course it's all in the interest of "non-racialism"! And the waste of resources and corruption endemic in the country's economic life, with mega profits for the politically connected; it's even OK now for the ruling party to be major shareholders in companies doing business with monopoly state enterprises. And the joke that's "nationalisation" of the mines. The wealth beneath the soil is already being tapped for "the people" through royalties . .less by flebus on January 25 2010, 08:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

LEADERSHIP SOME OF OUR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY WANT LEADERSHIP THEY CAN BE BLUE OR YELLOW OR BLACK OR WHITE BUT WE ARE NOT GETTING EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP WE ARE GETTING BAD LEADERSHIP SO YOU SEE MR MALEMA WE ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT ALL THE BULL.....T THAT IS GOING AROUND WE WANT . .more RESULTS NOT FAILURE . .less by VURKIE on January 25 2010, 08:26 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Black leadership (cont'd) royalties and taxes, but the "black leadership" in the ANC want control of the entire recovery process as well for the opportunities of patronage that would bring. The mines would then be run at enormous loss to the country and "the people" just as Eskom, . .more SAA, Armscor, SABC and other loss-making state enterprises are run under the ANC. Yes! Let's join poverty stricken Africa and its mega-rich "leaders" by embracing inept, corrupt black ANC leadership; alternatively, let's hope the opposition parties will get through to the electorate and prevail upon them to vote in a better kind of black leadership (a la Mandela?) than that currently on offer by the corrupt and criminal-friendly ANC. We can become a rainbow nation if we get rid of racism (especially state racism as espoused by the ANC), corruption and crime (especially state-endorsed corruption and crime tolerated by the ANC). . .less by flebus on January 25 2010, 08:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

More madness from the julia chronicles I am just so not interested in this guy anymore! Clear ramblings... Who owns SA? the whites? I would venture a guess and say the Chinese!!! Call me stupid !!! ;) by unknown on January 25 2010, 08:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Distinction Malema might have done badly in school but he surely would get a distinction in K** praat! by Eish on January 25 2010, 08:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Malema What a D***! Types like him caused the Nazi haulocaust in the 2nd WWar!Such retoric is inflammatory at best with an ugly agenda and outcome to it.Surely he doesn't have an education! ... oh gee just rememberd ... you don't really need one to run anything . .more in SA! . .less by Gerard on January 25 2010, 08:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Black leadership would be good Juju. We yearn for black leadership Julius, but we are not getting it. Our leaders (including yourself) are far more concerned with power struggles and getting their hands on as much tax payers loot as possible. Economic power comes through hard work and . .more brains. If you devise laws to "take it" it will fail, but we know you are not listening. . .less by Airwolf on January 25 2010, 08:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

used to be a liberal i used to despise what APARTHEID represented.... funny thing , julius... is that nowadays, i don't despise it.... I feel nothing..... slowly , but surely, boytjie.... you're pushing me away from my previously ....liberal thoughts...... best you embrace . .more the whites a little bit...... we are not the enemy......as for the farmers....LOL.... i was most amused the other day to read that checkers had imported their first crop of apples from the USA.........ha ha ... its just the tip of the iceberg....Julius.... . .less by Super Duper on January 25 2010, 08:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Useless Mal Emma start with the potholes and fix them and then work your way up through all the mess and fix it all, maybe then and only then will the whites accept you as a leader. by Koos on January 25 2010, 08:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Who is the puppet master?? This guy only says what his masters want him to or allow him to. No President does the dirty work himself. by and Zen... on January 25 2010, 09:00 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Forward thinking Do none of our leaders, or voters, look forward to the likely outcome of all this ranting and raving? Taking money from the rich and giving to the poor, while sounding noble, cannot last. When all the money has been taken and squandered, what then? . .more Will we return to subsistance farming? Will we start begging other countries for handouts? Can anyone see the downward slide we are on? Sustainable growth is what is needed. Government sponsoring businesses that will eventually grow on their own. Education has a huge part to play in this. I appeal to our leaders, take the high road, the road less travelled. Educate and grow our country. The effects will only start to show after 10 or even 20 years, but there will be sustainable progress and you will go down in history for saving this country. Patience and hard work will get us there. . .less by The Hammer on January 25 2010, 09:07 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Malema Malema, no one will understand you, you are so confused you don't understand you, this unfortunately causes problems in the young people. Generalizations never help, there is probably a lot of racism still in Bloem, but does that mean all whites are bad, . .more and your understanding of economics and the implications of what you suggest would actually be detrimental to the entire nation, But hay , You only think about looking good, getting the spotlight, making big promises without thinking about the consequences, you are a bad leader for the youth of the nation, you are immature and unstable, and you are too proud and arrogant. God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. think about that, if you stay proud you will have a fall . .less by Sipho on January 25 2010, 09:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Us whites love black rule We just don't want an a***ole like you to do the leading. by ps on January 25 2010, 09:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Dalema We CAN accept black leaders , CAN you accept WHITE leaders ??? NO you do everthing to undermine this. (Western Cape) . As for taking the country forward . OUr current leaders IN ALL SPHERES are driving SO fast ahead ...............to the greatest pothole . .more ever!@!!!!!!!!!!!! . .less by charles on January 25 2010, 09:13 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Malema is the Madonna of the ANC Like her, he takes every taboo to see how much (political) advantage he can get out of it! by Jan on January 25 2010, 09:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

"White Men" Put a Man on the Moon... ...and split the atom, and mapped the genome. And vitually every other advancement of mankind. Now you want to exclude them. You don't create wealth by dividing it. So backward, just reinforces the sterotype. by Ty Webb on January 25 2010, 09:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Dalema We CAN accept proper balck leaders , CAN you accept proper White leaders ??? Think not based on reaction in the western Cape . Currently our leadership is taking us FAST into the big black pothole .................. by charles on January 25 2010, 09:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

julius how can SA allow such an idiotic person to make such racial and unfair comments,why is it that only when blacks say and do what they want it's called an democratic country, but when non blacks say and do anything it becomes a racial issue.Thank God i'm . .more not in parliament or the president, cause i'd chase them all into the sea......It's sad to know and live in a country where idoits like him actually have rights and the power to change things, cause they only benefit themselves by stealing what belongs to the country.....IDIOTS . .less by awed on January 25 2010, 09:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

viva SACP viva!! Seems like the commies are a lot smarter than we thought, last time you took on someone your size you ran crying to uncle JZ. Viva SACP by mornay on January 25 2010, 09:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

We're all pretty capable Dear Julius... We're all pretty capable of being criminals and murderers. Your comments, for example, have no doubt set people off into a violent fit of rage and anguish. Were you standing in front of a few of us right now, hell, we'd be pretty . .more capable. Dude. You were born in March, 1981 - just a few months before me (making you 28). You saw the tail end of oppression and the clearly missed the start of something truly great. Don't go c*ck it up with your MalcolmX, PDiddy, Fiddy-Cent want for some street cred. . .less by Potential Criminal on January 25 2010, 10:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Bryan Speaking of spelling Bryan ....'sentance' is actually spelt 'sentence' by Toothfairy on January 25 2010, 10:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Black, white, coloured... Julius has once again shown his true colour. 'nuff said. by Colourblind on January 25 2010, 10:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

True unapologetic African Go, Julius go. Julius speaks what the puppet Mandela's would dare not mention. Mandela leeks the back side of europeans in SA and elsewhere. Julius speaks for the masses who are still being sucked dry by the racists from europe. I hope he does . .more not shy away from the real issues as time goes. Thank YOU Julius. Finally there's hope for SA in YOU. . .less by Fed up with false SA !!!!!!!! on January 25 2010, 10:22 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

speak no evil As long as JM has his big house and big car he will have a big mouth, take that away and see him crumble... by CJ on January 25 2010, 10:23 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Juju You see all these responses you all write about how the white race is soo industrious and fantastic is exactly the response we require. A response that galvanises us to take what is rightly ours and to empower & slavage our people from poverty, because . .more none of you sound repetant of the mess your fathers and for fathers have put us in!! To that end Julius Malema will continue to represent a shining beacon for the future of South Africa as long as his views & interests are aligned to emancipating the people of South Africa. If this coutnry was as bad as you make it out to be then I would thin kyou would have all fled by now, using your ancestoral visas etc...In fact if white people had known how good things would be post democracy I think yo yourselves would have asked for apartheid to end faster....We are on to you!!! . .less by Nationalisation on January 25 2010, 10:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Only 1 solution for that kind of stupidity.... From the article - "Malema said white people had been taught from an early age that a black person could never be trusted, that "a black person has a potential of being a criminal, a black person has a potential of being a murderer"." Nobody . .more taught whites about black behaviour....we just learn quickly. Check the newspaper headlines.....2 white farmers and a white medical doctor murdered just this weekend alone...nevermind other atrocities, rapes and hijackings. And this is a normal country? Maybe in Africa. . .less by KKK on January 25 2010, 10:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Bryan You also don't seem to be able to spell - it's "sentence", not "sentance". What a special pleasure it is to see a nit picking w***er like you come short in a public forum - thanks mate. I'm sure at least Mrs Bryan admires you - have courage. by Andy on January 25 2010, 10:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Origins of Man It is said all humans originally came from Africa. Those who left Africa advanced those who stayed behind remained anchored in a place that was always 50 years or more behind the rest. My suggestion; recognise Africa leadership and hope to . .more hell they will recognise the intelectual leadership of the others. Unfortunately the brilliant Malema won't even recognise the contribution of non-blacks in his own Allianance of Stupidity See http://letterdash.com/g.annandale/malemaman-of-many-talents . .less by Geanann on January 25 2010, 10:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

AMS Debt Is this an olive branch to the AMS shareholders to tackle their R21Bn debt together? To agree to waive royalties? To limit payments to parastatal ESKOM? Minimise the social development funds? JM implies dividends will be paid if nationalised, which for . .more some AMS shareholders will be a relief after the latest set of results. As I am not an AMS shareholer Malemo, if you are going to Nationalise a mining house, please do some homework and pick a more profitable one, or one with a much lower forward P/E. I fear otherwise this will not provide the solution you promise. Also, please check with Moodys what this will do to our rating as I am sure some international investors may not share your (JM) view of what is fair. Any change in rating, assuming a downgrade if Moodys are not of the same opinion, will increase our debt repayment levels that we have just increased by taking on AMS. Hang on, perhaps this is just rhetoric and not thought out at all.... . .less by math101 on January 25 2010, 11:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Whites gladly accept African leadership...BUT We haven't seem any since the ANC took power in 1994. What we have seen is a great deal of sordid and distatseful squabbeling and the greedy, money grabbing trickery of a singularly untrustworthy bunch of black africans who just happened to be . .more in the right place and the right time when the gravy train passed by. . .less by Old Nick on January 25 2010, 11:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Pedi for "leadership" i am curious to understand the Pedi meaning for the word "leadership" as practised by Blacks- is there such a word, in fact? Whites will accept black leadership when they see actual signs of leadership. so far black leadership has become linked with . .more failed education, failed healthcare, failed domestic security, failed local government, failed economic development, failed job creation, failed poverty alleviation, failed state-run institutions, failed municipalities. In contrast, black leadership has been highlighted for cadre deployment, nepotism, tender rigging, inflammatory and dangerous populist lie-mongering, tacit endorsing of rape and other forms of denigration and abuse of women etc etc etc etc - should i go on? Please stand up, Julius, JZ and all other ANC child-minds and YOU tell ME what is Black leadership? why should ANYONE accept black leadership as currently practiced in SA? . .less by Eugenic on January 25 2010, 11:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Mineral Rights The "ownership" of minerals vests in the owner of the Title Deed for the piece of land above the minerals, but not "THE RIGHT TO MINE SUCH MINERALS". Under SA Law, the owner of the land cannot mine the minerals without a permit from the State. . .more These permits are issued on the State's terms - ie with royalties and other onerous conditions attached. The State can decide the amount of it's own royalty, and the owner of the land cannot even appeal this one sided price setting in Court - ie if you don't like the Governments "cut", you can't mine your minerals. This makes the State the effective owner of all mineral rights in SA long ago already, and was effectively a back door expropriation of the the country's mineral wealth previously in White hands. So wake up Julius you dodo, your demands have long since been met - unless of course you are aware of this fact, and are using public ignorance of it to stoke up racial hatred of Whites on a mass scale. I think you may well be a Hitler in the making. . .less by Andy on January 25 2010, 11:18 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

NO JULIES! WE ALL WANT LEADERSHIP REGARDLESS OF COLOR Im suprised university students take the time to listen to you by BLAH on January 25 2010, 11:27 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

racism most black people feel embrassed when issues of race are raised when white people are around, that should not happen. black people must not feel guilty becos they think they are making whites guilty. black leadership is here and it is here to stay... by Neo Thabo Sekhu on January 25 2010, 11:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Stop avoiding the real issues The miracle of SA's fledgling democracy will only prevail if politicians with self serving agendas are reeled in and stop poisoning the minds of their electorate. Trying to gain some sort of political foothold by spouting absolute rubbish with . .more a very impressionable youth will only serve to fan the flames and delay the reparation and the continued real dialogue that needs to take place to make this country the great place it can be. Politicians like Malema should stop avoiding the real issue of lack of delivery of basic services like health and education to their electorate by constantly pulling the race card to take the spotlight off their non-performance. . .less by Jacques on January 25 2010, 11:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Ja Nee You whites always amaze. You claim superior intellect over Malema and blacks in general, yet you fail to deal with the issues that are raised. An intelligent reader would deal with the issues that are raised. 1. It is a fact that an . .more olive branch was extended by blacks, through Mandela, to all whites. And what did we get in return? 2. It is a fact that national endeavours , read black endeavours , the majority of whites do not support. 3. It is a fact that whites think that blacks are reared to be criminals. Which is quite strange because the majority of you whites were and are raised by our black mothers. Have you turned out to be criminals? Let's deal with the issues intelligent people. You attack the individual at every turn, why, is he hitting a nerve? . .less by Nyathi on January 25 2010, 11:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@andy Dear fellow, many thanks for the angry response. Just goes to prove my point that anger is the retort of the intellectually weak. Quick one for you ...... "rather be thought of as a fool than speak and remove all doubt" ....... Now, I know . .more people like you, so I beg you not to go home to a bottle of Klippies and relieve yourself on Mrs Andy's head ...... it's not cool. Here is a thought, why dont you enrol at a school part time, and make a concerted effort to get that standard six ..... you know, the one that would make you an intellectual giant in your community. . .less by Bryan on January 25 2010, 11:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Booooooooo Go back to school and learn how to read and write! by G Woodwork on January 25 2010, 11:39 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Long live the DA To quote Helen Zille - "I love Malema. Every time he opens his mouth I receive a huge amount of new supporters!" by Mel on January 25 2010, 11:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

malema There is nothing wrong with black leadership(eg Obama),but Africa has probably produced 2 worthy leaders over the last century(Mandela,Nyerere). For the rest they have all been corrupt,despotic or just plain inept. They have ruined the continent . .more and blamed colonialism,apartheid,the whites and the west. Looking at the current crop of leaders and potential leaders in SA,who can we honestly say will bring peace and prosperity to our country?--Zuma?Mantashe?Nzimande?Julius? Vavi? They are what nightmares are made of. Amazingly Hellen Zille,a white woman,shows them all up. Even the Nats,who were cruel and repressive,were able to manage hospitals,roads,parastatals,schools etc. Why ?? . .less by scud on January 25 2010, 11:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Nationalisation You have put yourself in the position you are in because your culture is at odds with the modern world.Try starting with promiscous behavior which the president of this country is a classic example and the reason why the aids infection is highest in the . .more black population. Since 1994 your goverment has been responsible for seeing this countries infrastructure deteriorate let alone improve it. . .less by Mike on January 25 2010, 11:54 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Viva ANC Viva Well said comrade, I believe all whities must be moved outside SA , the jobs are meant for us the black class, we deserve this, we should start moving them out from the rural areas and then move to the cities and kick them out, if they cannot voluntarily . .more leave lets assist by putting them is so called sophia towns structure. Malema, u have my vote for pres, lets kicks them out like in Zim , whities are not meant to be in Africa, this is a place for only blacks. GET OUT WHITIES , VIVA ANC , LETS GET THE WHITIES OUT, VIVA ANC . .less by Mzandile on January 25 2010, 12:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Malema Just another confused person he is. by Jack on January 25 2010, 12:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@nyathi 1 is a fact. What did 'we' get?: Peace, the point of an olive branch. If more than that was wanted, an olive branch was the wrong thing to offer. 2 is a dubious fact. I doubt all whites do not support all national endeavours. 3 is not a . .more fact, it is a sentiment. If it were a fact, there would not blank and white people happily married, there would not be a black president of USA. The issue raised is that of raising funds for education through nationalisation of mines. The attacks are based on the difference between capitalist and social thinking. You can be black or white in either of these camps. A leader needs to fully evaluate the commitments given, has that been done? Is this rhetoric? Is this politics?: No, Yes, yes. . .less by math101 on January 25 2010, 12:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ POTASHI Damn you are racist, "kick the whities out" Why, what have I done to the ANCYL or the ANC, I am here to make money and work @ my 8 to 5 job, get my kids through school (which is on its way down - so I spend my weekends teaching my kids what I can . .more remember), I cant afford a private school and want my kids to be beta then me and not to suffer to go on holidays or movies / malls or buy some clouthes or wait for an extra week before I can take them to the Doc, I made life mistakes, but I'm making them right, this just makes me wonder if I can't trust a fellow South african, then where do I go, " the sophia town structures" you guys are making me very scared of whats to come, whats in line for my kids ? I am not the one taking or stealing money, killing or robbing, my life is almost over , but my kids , they suffer because they white. . .less by G Palamas on January 25 2010, 12:48 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Does the ANC Do they pay a monetary prize for the "newsmaker" of the year ? If so ... I see why the moron always has something to say !!!!! Why do the newspapers or online news sites even give time to this piece of human waste ??? He has an education . .more of a Baboon and thinks like a Donkey (A*** not A**) Please lets move on from brain dead thinking and try to move forward - not 100 years back !!!! Oh and Malema - if you go back 3-4 hundred years you will probably find yourself in Central africa from where your tribe comes!!!!!!!! you turly RSA arent you !!!!!!!!! . .less by Psycho on January 25 2010, 12:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

why aren'y u engaging Malema's points we all know he failed woodwork now debate about the issues he's raising....... by Jules on January 25 2010, 12:53 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

1,2,3.. @ Nyathi 1. I believe you got a democracy based on hard work put in by people like FW de Klerk, N Mandela etc. You inherited a country with infrastructure, including a 1st world banking system, road network, 1st rate hospitals... there's a long list. 2. . .more These national endeavors are aimed primarily at the black majority and by default marginalize white South Africans. 3. This conception is due to the fact that if a person (white or black) becomes a victim of crime in S.A. it was 99% of the time carried out by a black male. When last did you hear of a white person hi-jacking/breaking-in/ATM bombing someone or some institution? . .less by Apathy on January 25 2010, 12:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Persecution The mind boggles as to why the previously persecuted are so quick to persecute? If the proverbial olive branch was offered, why then use it to beat those who have accepted it? Or have not? This is not an issue of race. We're long past that. The . .more issue that all of us - of all races, gender and ages - have with you, is that you're an idiot. . .less by The beaten and the damned on January 25 2010, 12:56 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Passport I am so glad that I have a portuguese passport. They day Julius Malema leaves the youth league and enters the main frame of the anc for a more senior position is the day, I book my plane ticket. I am so positive about South Africa, Until . .more that lunatic opens his mouth. The ANC needs to understand his destructive natute and sort him, All the old leaders work of brilliance should not be destroyed by one young arrogant mad man . .less by Portugal on January 25 2010, 13:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@POTASHI Your statement has been reported for race hate speech to Moneyweb.Call me as a white what you like but when you start calling for the word from the ANCYL leader to massacare whites you have over stepped the line of debating the issues which only appear to . .more to be your issues. . .less by Mike on January 25 2010, 13:08 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

4Sure You don't like being questioned or challenged you want to be worshiped that's why any speaking out against discrimination or unpatriotic actions is the 'race card', fueling flames, hate-speech. Are we not allowed to speak, when last did u attend national . .more days, is there no racism at UFS, were misconceptions not hard wired into your psyche at an early age? THE SO-CALLED RACE CARD was invented to stifle debate and ultimately to silence Africans. The guy clearly says the ANC is non racial yet he's still labeled a racist, Hitler in the making.....NONSENSE. Dispute the critical issues he raises surely we all know his academic record by now. . .less by Spikiri on January 25 2010, 13:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The facts are clear 15 years ago, 1,5 miilion pupils entered grade 1. 550K wrote the government matric in 2009. 334K (60.6%) passed. 110K with university excemption. Only 50K passed mathematics!!!!! What this means is that of a generation of 1,5 . .more million students who started their school career, only 50,000 to 100,000 have the education to advance in a career. The majority of the rest are condemned to menial labour or unemployment. Assuming we produce 50,000 capable school leavers a year, that gives us 750,000 over 15 years!!!!!!! How do the ANC expect corporate SA to reach representativity targets, when they have created a school system that gives us this!!!!!!!!!! . .less by Realist on January 25 2010, 13:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@The beaten and the damned This idiot will make u dance............. by Rex on January 25 2010, 14:02 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Dear Jimmy It's not whites who think like that, it's Mugabe creating a bad name for black people to cringe about by African on January 25 2010, 14:02 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

... ...idiot. by M on January 25 2010, 14:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

African leader Is'nt that an oxymoron in more ways than one. Julius Malema -moron ? by Charlie on January 25 2010, 14:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

If Malema was White ... he would be unemployable - used car salesman perhaps. He would get no where in the global political arena because he is all mouth and little brain. In any mainstream political party that selected people based on talent, he would be the joker in the corner . .more selling raffle tickets to raise funds. The point is, he is so lucky he is black. Because in the ANC it seems talent is not important. He is Winnie's little project. And that is why most people here mock him ... they can't believe that someone with so little talent or intelligence is in a position of power. He got into that position because he is black. But that blackness is not why people are mocking him. Big difference. White people gladly love Oprah, laugh with Chris Rock, support Obama, marvel at Morgan Freeman's acting ... yet despise Malema. It's not about skin colour ... the ANC just don't get that ... it's about competence. . .less by Sad Days on January 25 2010, 14:15 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Rwanda here we come Potashi, you need a doctor mate, your hatred is getting the better of you, it will eat you from within. Get a grip, hey!. by possum on January 25 2010, 14:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Portugal please leave sooner....we don't need citizens weighing their options tryna clean this country out for all it's worth...you are free to leave ASAP. Malema is not destructive or creating divisions he's projecting our suppressed thoughts TRUST ME it's as if . .more u don't want to be engaged, you just want to pay tax and be left alone as if you don't live in this country. Somehow you see him as a threat to your looting........go loot somewhere else you opportunist. long live hon. cde Malema long live. . .less by oh really on January 25 2010, 14:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Jemza Those people you mentioned there are suck ups.......name one black leader who's an independent thinker not always dancing to your tune that u admire by @Sad Days on January 25 2010, 14:45 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Julius Why all the comments people? That is the exact reaction people like him want out of all of this. by Sipho on January 25 2010, 14:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Sad Days - OOOooh SNAP! Sad Days may have a point... Nicely said. YES WE CAN. by Tellitlikeitis on January 25 2010, 14:51 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Hey Bryan, and other items Hey Bryan my bru, just please explain why you misspelt "sentence" in your post where you criticised me for mis spelling. You are too precious ou pal, and just the kind of stupid response I wait for on Moneyweb - it is my pleasure to see you fall into your . .more own trap - it is even more of a pleasure to see you come back for some more public whipping - man, are you a sucker for punishment. Ag please, tell the Moneyweb audience why you can't spell "sentence" properly - surely it's because we Whites won't accept Black Leadership. On to more challenging items: Malema is no fool, and nor are his puppet masters. There is not much more scope to explain non delivery, other than finding a scapegoat, ie Whites who won't accept Black Rule - a claim very hard to refute because it's so amorphous (to Bryan - look it up - in a dictionary - best place). Malema reflects the coming ANC theme - he is the testing ground- make no mistake, Malema's pronouncements are actually the ANC mainstream view. Hitler villified Jews who owned the commanding heights of the then German economy - it resulted in the mass execution of the "hated race" - there's little difference between that tactic and Malema's horrific racial diatribe (this spelling and grammer in your ballpark Bryan?) in the above article. Malema's rhetoric has turned dangerously racist. . .less by Andy on January 25 2010, 14:56 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

The cost of our complacence "One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato by SoLaR on January 25 2010, 15:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Julius... do us a favour try get a job with a BLACK OWNED FIRM..... guess what?.... they won't employ you because you do not have the capacity to add any value to any enterprise... and it is all about bottom line....isnt it?....oh hang on.... not an ANC owned . .more business....there you can put a "cadre" in and get little or no return... and the tax payer will just bail you out..... julius..if you represent the future of this country..i'm concerned... VERY.....ALTHOUGH , I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WIH YOUR PLAN TO NATIONALISE THE MINES... funny thing is .... YOU THINK THAT ANGLO AMERICAN WILL WANT TO STAY ON AS A "PARTNER"..lol lol lol.... why do you want a capitalist firm to stay on as a partner??? OH YES ..HANG ON..... THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO MAKE IT WORK FOR A LITTLE WHILE.............SKILLS..lolLLOLOL . .less by Super Duper on January 25 2010, 15:29 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Spikiri is right I agree with Spikiri. I myself as a 40 white male should be able to look at the merits of the debate and see If I can contribute positively and if not ,leave it to the majority. Lets face it. Mr Malema is raising the issues anyone else would under the . .more circumstances. Why do we always act so surprised? In actual fact it would probably be quite a good idea for white people in general to stop moaning about their plight. It's just as boring as the nonsense we sometimes here from wayward politicians. Lets all get our hands dirty and do something to break this stalemate. Be humble,acknowledge the privilege we all still have,and then work out your own way of sharing it. That should fix a few things. I think we should also apologize to each and every single previously disadvantaged citizen for the C*** that they endured for all these years.It did not just happen on its own. Lastly, all white people should put pressure on mining houses that have removed most of their wealth/profits offshore , to bring it back.There is still a loophole that needs to be closed. . .less by RT on January 25 2010, 15:40 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Taking a few steps back A common theme in unhappy situations where part of the population ended up dragged into the streets and dealt with were: 1. a certain shortcoming had to be explained 2. a certain single enemy had to be identified 3. the cause for 1 had to . .more be placed on 2 4. institutions designed to prevent the happennings were weakened from a resource point of view, or staffed with sympathisers 5. a wrong had to be righted 6. a majority acheived 7. a certain insident... Pardon any spelling mistakes. . .less by Happenned Before on January 25 2010, 15:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Mzandile Have you heard of the freedom charter? Obviously not. Do you know what a country's constitution is? Do you know how a modern democratic state operates? Obviously you don't, and yet you have a vote! Just shows how flawed this aspect of democracy . .more is : one person one vote, regardless. I'd rather vote for moving all ill-informed stupid racists, black and white, to Zimbabwe so that the rest of us can get on with making this country the good place it can be. It's only racist scum that keep on breaking down what men of goodwill have built up here. . .less by puzzled on January 25 2010, 15:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

O a shoma monna --- persevere Julias, you touch my soul and the deepest root of my being. You are articulate, crisp and clear, truthful and real. What else could we ask for. Son of the soil, we are truely greatful to you, Thank you for confronting The BIG ISSUES. Fellow Mzanzi bothers . .more and sisters, ignore and demean Julias at your own peril . .less by Marumo on January 25 2010, 16:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

LOL!!!!!!!! I LOVE THIS QUOTE: We do not pay tax, because we are government but Anglo Platinum must still pay tax after declaring dividends with us," he said to huge cheers from the group. LOL!!!!!!!!! Why because you dont earn enough to contribute to the . .more country's growth. Why because paint by numbers was too advanced a science course for the likes of Julius and his Creatins I mean comrades. I get mixed up the words are so similar in meaning in South Africa. Anglo just contributes more than double his followers contributions to the country. . .less by WHAT A JOKE on January 25 2010, 16:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Julius for President - of the local prison's prisoner society "ANCYL president says whites believe all blacks are potential murderers and criminals " No, JuJu, just idiots like you! by Al on January 25 2010, 16:31 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Andy Isn't "grammer" spelt "grammar"..? But I suppose your spelling is more or less in the ballpark. HA HA!!! by Spellcheck on January 25 2010, 16:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

racial bigot U are the racial bigot Malema Stop labelling all Whites I am so sick of hearing your rantings Do get yourself and education and SHUT the F*** UP by sudanstud on January 25 2010, 16:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Drible Did he actually write this speach? Just wondering by Mr Fer on January 25 2010, 16:38 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Black Leadership This monkey needs to realise that whites have no problem with black leadership - we just really hate leaders like him that are dumber than a puddle of puppy poop. There are thousands of brilliant competent, educated young black South Africans more than . .more capable to lead this country into the future, but the ANC prefers an uneducated plonker to be the face of our youth - god help us! ( PS Those brilliant young blacks are hard at work building this country, he is going to steal from them too!) . .less by Knight on January 25 2010, 16:44 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

keep the learners out of class it's much more fun to go watch julius than it is to pass first semester. by ofcourse on January 25 2010, 17:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Knight In what context do you refer to Malema as a monkey??..........that's not acceptable. Please refine your vocabulary for the sake of racial harmony comments like that step on too many toes. by L.A.X on January 25 2010, 17:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

RACISM IN CONTEXT SPEAKING OF UOVS. THE WEEK THE REITZ-VIDEO WAS SHOWN ON TV FOR THE FIRST TIME THEIR WAS AN ARTICLE IN CITY PRESS ABOUT A WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN GIRL THAT WAS RAPED BY FOUR BLACK MEN. AS THE GIRL SAID: THE REITZ-VIDEO MADE HEADLINES WORLDWIDE BUT HER BEING . .more RAPED ONLY MADE THE SURROUNDING TOWNS NEWSPAPERS. . .less by CFM on January 25 2010, 18:35 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Malema a racist Malema is clearly a racist, trying to attribute values to people that are a different colour to him and creating stereotypes in the minds of the people that could only lead to hate between groups of different colours. It is amazing that he . .more only thinks of things as "us (blacks) and them (whites)". He is exactly like a black Jaap Marais. Does Malema realise how many people of all colours fought for a South Africa where the fact that people gets classified by race would be something of the past. Does he realise how eager people are to be one South Africa where everyone can live in peace and prosperity ? However , this is not what Malema wants as his road is clearly to provoke and create hate... what is more interesting than Malema is why the ANC allows such racially dividing speech to be used so liberally rather than focussing on the common desires of all South Africans regardless of colour. When will South Africa move away from seeing everything in terms of black and white to a non racial society ? Bring back Mandela. . .less by True South African on January 25 2010, 18:43 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

nickeecooper@yahoo.com sorry mate, we accept Africans outbred us and by votecount hence can make decisions, but accept that Africans provide leadership ? no ways. You have some way to go mate to prove yourselves first, something makes me think it will be after i'm gone. by Nicke Cooper on January 25 2010, 22:11 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Evil to him who evil thinks; The money is not in the ground "Do not be afraid to confront issues of race" - Julius is not wrong but is not prepared to debate the issue point by point. Freedom of speech is a right in this country. I defend his right to speak his mind and he must afford me the same right with proper . .more dignity. There is generosity and goodness in most black coloured and white folk, that is why this country still functions very well one on one regardless of colour between people who have trusted each other for years. But when the mobs respond to rabble rousers who are permitted take the public platform with their misinformation and poisonous incitements we will all be in huge trouble - black and white alike. "the working class should be able to indicate what they wanted government to do with the money made from mines." Agreed but there is no guarantee that this spendthrift govt will listen. "We need extra income. Where is this? It is beneath the soil of South Africa - that is where we can get the money. " Newsflash Julius! The money is not in the ground - just ore at less than one teaspoonful (5 grams) per ton which must first be FOUND, dug out, processed, refined, manufactured and sold for money. People with appropriate skills must WORK first and pay taxes before you will see any money for education, whether the the mines are nationalised or not! . .less by Mayday on January 25 2010, 22:50 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

STOP wasting your time!!! do you really think the Africa black man can learn out of previous mistakes.... look at the rest of Africa...still begging after all these years. It is our duty to preserve what we can...and who cares if I am branded a racicst..pffff...I will rather be . .more racicst than a stupid, idiot who will only bring poverty and death upon his people. My forefathers worked hard and build a foundation of South Africa not by oppression BUT by guarding it against thieves and thugs...almost like you do with your house at night...protecting your children can not be racicst as you keep black killers out of it . .less by william on January 26 2010, 08:21 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Beware the ides of March.... Julius, beware the ides of March..... history has not been kind to those named Julius with a lot of ambition..... they are seen by their ilk as too ambitious and they pay the price.... by Nick on January 26 2010, 08:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Malema ...Show me an African "Leader" and I will follow him/her. Until such time as you can supply such an unusual specimen P%$$ off! Is there any scientific or historical evidence of such a creature ever ever ever? by @Malema on January 26 2010, 09:09 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

time out I am embarrassed to be called white after reading this vitriol. It would be hard to find a reason not to back the anti white lobby after reading all of this hate ridden rubbish.Not one solution.P*******.I certainly hope none of you are teachers in our . .more schools. . .less by RT on January 26 2010, 10:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@RT so try and be black and see if you get a better job by BJ on January 26 2010, 12:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@BJ Good point though i am not sure it is that cut and dried..Why not create your own job? This is after all an entrepreneurs dream country. by RT on January 26 2010, 16:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Zumas mouthpiece is just doing his job Since service delivery isn't working out for the ANC - it would appear that their new political strategy, opposite to Mandela's, is one of racial polarization - "vote anc because the evil white racists in the DA want to make you their slaves" Certainly . .more ALL South Africans are smart enough to see though this complete idiot and the corrupt, incompetent and racist party he represents? . .less by enough! on January 27 2010, 12:04 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

julius malema Anyone belittling this man,is making a grave mistake.He dispenses unadulterated demagoquery which spells great danger for SA.Pray that his next career move is dying of Aids. by fritz on February 16 2010, 08:52 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Destroying jobs Malema is the greatest .....the greatest destroyer of jobs. Jobs come from investors.......white investors ! Wake up Big headed moron ! by fred on February 23 2010, 15:49 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

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