Are you ANCYL but gatvol with Malema?

Democratic Alliance Youth welcomes all young people to a truly alternative youth organization.

It is always a tragedy to witness an organization erode it's moral standing and positive relevance in society because of a few individuals behaving in a manner that seeks to advance their personal interests as opposed to the interests of the greater stake holders at large.

The ANCYL epitomizes that very organization. An organization once served by a leader of the calibre of Mandela, it has been sad to see it loose its entire moral fibre to the selfish, backstabbing & carefree leaders which fight for positions today in an attempt to continue to serve their ego's and bank accounts alone.

I say this as a fully fledged member of the DA Youth, and office bearer at the highest level. I do so because today, more than ever, I recognize the massive problems the youth face, and know that it will take a collective effort to resolve these problems. However too many people are being let down by the greedy elite at the top of the ruling parties youth wing whose prime priority is securing their tenures in power through dirty tricks and manipulating democratic practice as we are seeing today. This is the heart of a closed crony society for a few. Youth simply deserve better. They deserve an organization whose primary function is to serve them and contribute to a brighter future.

I therefore encourage all discouraged members of the ANCYL who believe in an Open Opportunity Society for All to join the DA Youth in our positive mission to improve the conditions and opportunities of all young people. We are building an alternative youth organization which is positive in its outlook, and based on creating a better tomorrow. We want to extend opportunities to youth, and allow them to be the best they can be.

It is time people discard the negative politics of the ANCYL, and pulls their weight behind an organization which contributes towards a better tomorrow. There is no time for infighting for positions and flawed congresses, but time for solutions. We are building the only solution orientated youth organization in South Africa because we believe we can improve the status quo.

We can, we must, & we will create an Open Opportunity for all. We will realign politics in South Africa and help the DA create a political vehicle credible enough to bring about fundamental change when we take over national government. We must be the drivers of this vehicle, and it starts now.

Hlanganani Gumbi

Training & Development Chairperson

DA Youth Federal Executive

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can't wait ... ... to read Domza and ZM's response to this one (LOL). by Realist on September 02 2010, 22:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

No Trust Gumbi you might be right by recruiting only ANCYL and not primarily other political parties youth, because you could notice a lot of dissatisfied youth in the ranks of the ANCYL, I am not an ANCYL member but a COPEYL member, you should also start . .more adressing the DA raciall line in your cabinet,otherwise you won't be able to sustain your membership,ANCYL is vulnarable at the moment,everybody wants to get members from there, people are sick and tired of the MALEMA/MUGABE style of rule, he is even ruling the ANC elders, Why do you think MANDELA is quiet about what is happening in ANC at the moment, its because he is scared that the guy can attack him in public, our ANCYL fellows are so confused and scared of this guy . .less by Andrea Volskrik on September 02 2010, 23:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Yawn... ...I can't be bothered, so I'll leave this one to ZM. by Domza on September 02 2010, 23:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

we never wanted positions thru politics, we have skills and education Their agenda became clear when they refused to co-opt other political formations into the struggle. Their decision to fight the struggle on their own raised so many questions e.g. (i) what credit do they intend to get by being on their own? (ii) what is . .more the struggle by the way? In trying to answer these questions one came to the realisation that the struggle to them was equated to tenders and other business interests. Thus, when they say we should defend the revolution, they are asking us to defend their space at the trough. Following from this, the only plausible answer to fight the struggle on their own (in my view) was self material gain. Fortunately this view is also substantiated by visible evidence. You cannot be a revolutionary and drive a R1 000 000 (look at the zeros, it is a lot, it's a disgrace) worth of a car. There is a clear contradiction there. Someone is a liar. It was not hard to see. . .less by Mabhova on September 03 2010, 03:14 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Straight to Gumbi Good one, you are hallucinating. Did you watch the news about ANCY NGC? Now tell us, what have you done for the youth that can attract them to leave ANCYL due to Malema? Oh now you realise that to be famous in SA, juju's name got to be with u all . .more the time. Malema is a jewel boy thats why your focus is on him rather than the ANCYL and all the mickey mouse youth parties including yours. Show us what you did for youth that ANCYL didn't do. Malema can be insulted in any hard way but he remains our jewel because there is no party that don't want Malema, all parties will be happy if he makes an offer of joining them, you can deny it just because you know he can't. Your boss Zille failed against Malema, so only idiots to smile at maddam like Gumbi will join n b garden boys. THE YOUTH NEED A MALEMA FIGURE, LIKE IT OR NOT. . .less by Sbuda on September 03 2010, 06:58 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@sbuda dear sir/maam please tell me what the anc yl and juju are doing for the youth. study groups at a varsity campus for struggling matrics? bursuries for education? o wait... bridges made from the most expensive mud . .more that mysteriously dissappear at the first sign of rain. are these the guys that are going to run all the nationalised institutions? just like the wovets ran all the farms so succesfylly up north. a burning question in my mind: why do you advocate self destruction? . .less by Eddie on September 03 2010, 07:25 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

WHAT A DESPERATE GARDEN BOY? DA Youth have no appeal so they want to recruit amongst our ranks this is P******* I've never seen such a P******* youth organisation. I'm sure Madam Zille put you up to this she promised you more rusks for breakfast. by cde Dhubula on September 03 2010, 07:37 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

COME ON LITTLE COCONUT I think wherever you are you sit in front of TV and envy those youth from ANC.Then quit Madame B s party and join ANC.Anyway you are too black to lead there in future.That position is your ceiling you fool.wake up and smell the coffee. by ZM on September 03 2010, 07:57 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Makes you think... It amazes me how in history it has been proven time and time again how people who instantly resort to insulting commentary are actually hiding a related insecurity or fear... Hlanganani is undoubtedly no garden boy. Hlanganani is what is right . .more with the country today. Someone that stands firmly for his belief of an open society. I appreciate Hlanganani's words and agree with him 100%. There are many good people and potential leaders within the ANCYL, but are stifled by internal politics, tribalism and a lack of having the right connections. Every now and then one of them will realise what the ANCYL has become (face it, gone are the respectable ANCYL days of Lembede, Sisulu and Mandela). Hlanganani's message gives those disillusioned ones the opportunity to give the DA Youth a sincere try, see that the organisation truly practices what it preaches in an open opportunity for ALL. If they like it, they stay, if not, so be it. ANC commentators seem arrogant because they have an almost ignorant sense of safety in numbers. DA commentators seem arrogant because they are almost always proven right. ;) Kudos Hlanganani. Keep it up. . .less by John Cupido, MPL. on September 03 2010, 08:30 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Zille's garden boy Work hard boy work hard by Smindloz on September 03 2010, 08:36 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@ZM Obama too black to lead in USA? I pity your immense inferiority complex that you have to rely on the pigmentation of your skin and numerical advantage to fill positions that should be filled by the most competent person available at the time of whatever . .more colour, race or creed. The state coffers are empty - we simply cannot afford anymore waste whether through corruption, nepotism, skewed BEE but mostly through incompetency. There are plenty extremely competent blacks out there, but they do not get the positions because they are not politically connected enough and (naively, you may argue) rely solely on their education, competence and hard work to feed their families and educate their children. Good men and women. In the meantime the whole country suffers from "shortcut" Juju and his ilk. Madiba's only real,big and expensive mistake - deployment policy (I suppose the man is only human). . .less by Bokdrol on September 03 2010, 08:42 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Clever democratic interplay. You must all be proud. Please people. Read a dictionary. Look up "Freedom' 'of' 'speech' ans 'democracy'. by Klilling on September 03 2010, 08:46 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@John Cupido Hon. John Cupido, MPL It's quiet ironic you should talk resorting to insults as your party, the DA does that all the time. If I can mention two people in South Africa that have been insulted by your organisation so much that it even hurts me . .more although I have no relations or whatsoever with them is; the President and Julius Malema. I am no member of the ANC or its alliance partners but reality is; your(the DA) political agenda is based on people not issues of national concern and that will be your downfall. Back then, the apartheid government also did the same; they focused on people, balck people and discrediting and promoting violence between them. If you talk bad of a person; politics or not, they are bound to take it personal. You must just stick to making perfumes and I will also make detergents cause politics are just a dirty game. You can't blame someone for doing bad cause you will do it tomorrow. There is no such thing as ethics in politics; you only bad mouth others so that you can get in power and do the same. To help in the fight against poverty we need to be promoting enterprise development and I am afraid to say the ANCYL have done that. To ensure the economic and social well being of this country we need to empower youth to become entrepreneurs; leaders, not followers. . .less by KSM on September 03 2010, 09:03 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

coconuts and coffee @ZM Aah, good to read yet another studied and carefully phrased comment from you. Now, having introduced the coconut analogy (which is so-o-o outdated) you conclude with the advice to smell the coffee. I assume there is an allusion there too, like . .more smell the black coffee, in a black cup, on a black saucer, with, if required, dark brown demarara sugar; but preferably, in order to keep its purity, without any sugar. I have to admire your ability to send out these subliminal messages carefully hidden among your wild rants. Do keep it up, even though I realise it must take ages to compose. . .less by john kalala on September 03 2010, 09:16 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

All about money and some form of position It is clear from how quickly this boy points out his role and position in the DA that it’s all about money and some form of recognition. His DA, as a party that rejects black leaders in its main structures has mini Juju wannabes– even if it means aligning . .more himself with ANCYL, negatively. This article does not focus on DA youth programmes, but is dependant on quoting the legendary ANCYL whose branches are growing in an unprecedented rate buy all forms of youth – University Graduates/professionals, students, & temporarily unemployed youth, whose branches are not virtual-reality and limited to the internet. . .less by Thinker on September 03 2010, 09:33 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@KSM KSM, since you seem to know so much about me, name one instance where I have bad mouthed an individual or pointed out their incompetence without proof or good cause? The DA's commentary on the Presidency and Mr. Malema is also with good cause. . .more Accusations made are researched and back up with proof. We do not use the ANC's "excuse him, he is still young" when responding to Julius's rantings. It seems to me that you have some sort of chip on your shoulder, are you maybe one of the incompetent board members of public entities that have fallen under my magnifying glass? Politics is a dirty game, you are correct in that. That is why we need more clean players. If you deem yourself so, stop being nothing more than a cynical voice and enter the arena... . .less by John Cupido, MPL. on September 03 2010, 09:47 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@JohnKalala@reZM John, I hadn't realised how subliminally deep ZMs precised theses were. Thanx for the translation.... respect, bro. Thanx, Chikurubi Don PG by John Austin on September 03 2010, 11:28 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@John Cupido Sir, I am a 23 year old who sit on board on two companies that were founded by myself. Yes they are not multi million rand companies jsut as yet but I am making an honest living out of them. Let's bear in mind they were founded in the last 2 years and the . .more they were funded by my own R 4400.00 inservice training salary. Today I make sales of atleast R80 000.00 a month and I can only grow further from that. Also worth mention; I have never received any tender from the government and I am not even in their supplier database. With that being cleared; I also want to clear that I was talking on DA in general. My arguement is that whatever 'cause' you may be 'fighting' for just tend to be in the shadow of 'personal' attacks that it always appear as. So, my advice is; fight for the cause and make it clear so that people will see what you are about because seriosly I don't see it... I don't even know your directive; the last one I heard was "STOP ZUMA", really now; you seriosly expect to be taken seriously if you base your campaign on a individual? Lastly, I may just take you up on your challenge to enter the ring of politics but you are fooling yourself when you think there is such thing as clean players in this game. But I admit, you have the potential to go places in this game yourself. . .less by KSM on September 03 2010, 11:41 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Hlanganani Gumbi Mr Hlanganani Gumbi I think your focus should be on recruiting as many youngsters/youth as possible to DA and stop meddling in the affairs of the ANCYL. The DA Youth leaders are exactly the same as their mother body, they spend most of time looking . .more at what the ANC is doing instead of directing their energies on changing the mindset of the white elite on DA driving sit. Until the DA is transformed at the top I do not foresee many young blacks joining them. As from where I am standing DA is still white dominated with a splash of Blacks with identity problems. . .less by Tshinyo Ya Naka on September 03 2010, 12:07 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Not brave Most of the anc members is not that they cant see the anc is failing them, its just that they are obsessed with race politics nd not brave 2 accept that they are being failed by Lawrence shabalala on September 03 2010, 12:12 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

young businessman @ KSM Well said and thoughtful. You have the best job in the world. Do not go near politics; EXCEPT to be an adviser on your area of expertise (are you there, John Cupido?). In the UK the politicians employ all the wrong people as advisers, e.g. . .more bankers to advise on business. Can you think of anyone worse? As a successful businessman I was moved to provide advice to the current coalition as they did not know that they did not know how business really worked. Would you believe they think that the business's main duty is to its shareholders, and that the businesses actually listen to the shareholders?!! . .less by john kalala on September 03 2010, 12:34 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Hlanganani You are one crazzy garden boy of Zille. You don't recruit people to join ur organisation like that wena. You put across reasons (programmes, advantages, benefits etc) why THEY should join you. This obsession with the ANCYL wont get you anywere. You talk . .more of an OPEN OPPORTUNITY SOCIETY for all - Do u know wat this mean for a Kasi/Rural boy like me????? or someone (Ur madam) told you what to write?? Who elected you to that Position? Did other young people elect you or you are an affirmative action candidate and your role is to recruit black people? Go back to the drawing board - You have failed . .less by The Big on September 03 2010, 13:05 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@The Big Yes, Hlanganani was indeed elected to his position at the DA Youth Federal Congress held on the same weekend as the DA Federal Congress. He, and the Federal Youth Committee he is part of, are the representative and legitimate voice of South African youth . .more who seek a political alternative that will end the politics of race, realign our political landscape and fight for the protection of the Constitution. . .less by Jabba on September 03 2010, 13:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@The Big Yes, Hlanganani was indeed elected to his position at the DA Youth Federal Congress held on the same weekend as the DA Federal Congress. He, and the Federal Youth Committee he is part of, are the representative and legitimate voice of South African youth . .more who seek a political alternative that will end the politics of race, realign our political landscape and fight for the protection of the Constitution. . .less by Jabba on September 03 2010, 13:32 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Hlanganani Well done. It cannot be easy to be the only voice in the desert, but there will be those willing to follow. Rome was not built in a day. You have a different road to walk so look past the ANCYL and benchmark yourself on more than a focus on discrediting . .more them. My best wishes go with you. . .less by GEMMA on September 03 2010, 18:17 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@KSM "Today I make sales of atleast R80 000.00 a month..." Turnover means next to nothing my friend. by Jeff on September 04 2010, 19:55 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

@Z(ombie) M(onkey) "...& temporarily unemployed youth..." No "temporarily" involved. These "youths", anywhere up to the age of 35, have no education and no skills. They are not just unemployed, they are unemployable. You and your ilk have been left behind by . .more modernity. Digging ditches and working in mines will be their lot if they are very fortunate under the ANC. Just read any of the posts by the young black people in the DA. They are obviously intelligent and well-educated. Read the replies by the ANC "youth" and weep for them. . .less by Jeff on September 04 2010, 20:02 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

Enough Said I know Hlanganani Gumbi to be an intelligent, articulate and sincere person. Exactly the type of leader that one wants at the top of an organisation tasked with leading young people towards a brighter future. The personal attacks are uncalled for and . .more P*******. Only fear of a crumbling empire could invoke such responses. No more needs to be said on this matter - his statement "Democratic Alliance Youth welcomes all young people to a truly alternative youth organization" speaks for itself - and the calibre of leadership offered proven. . .less by Terri Stander on September 08 2010, 10:19 Find this comment inappropriate? Report it

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