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Mamphela Ramphele has reneged on our agreement - Helen Zille

Helen Zille
02 February 2014

DA leader says Agang SA leader has demonstrated that she can't be trusted to see a project through to its conclusion

Ramphele's reneging on agreement is a sad day for democracy

Note to Editors: The DA leadership will hold a media briefing in Johannesburg tomorrow morning. Media advisory to follow.]

The Democratic Alliance leadership team today met with Dr Ramphele to finalise the terms of our agreement that she stand as the DA's Presidential Candidate. This was to be the formalisation of the public announcement made on Tuesday last week.

At the meeting, Dr Ramphele reneged on the agreement that she stand as the DA's Presidential Candidate, and that Agang SA's branches, members and volunteers be incorporated into the DA. This about-turn will come as a disappointment to the many South Africans who were inspired by what could have been a historic partnership.

It is rare indeed for a political party to offer the position of presidential candidate to a leader from another party, but we believed this move would be in the best interests of South Africa. People are looking for a strong and united alternative to Jacob Zuma's ANC, and we felt that Dr Ramphele would help us speed up the realignment of politics.  Constitutionally, she could only go to Parliament as the DA's Presidential Candidate if she is a member of the DA.

The DA negotiated with Dr Ramphele in good faith. Indeed she is a long-time personal friend of mine and I sought to bring her into politics over many years.  We have been through many false starts, but when Dr Ramphele insisted on Monday that we go public on Tuesday to announce her acceptance of our offer of the DA's presidential candidacy, we accepted that she had finally made up her mind.

By going back on the deal, again, just five days after it was announced, Dr Ramphele has demonstrated - once and for all - that she cannot be trusted to see any project through to its conclusion. This is a great pity.

Since Tuesday's announcement, Dr Ramphele has been playing a game of cat and mouse - telling the media one thing, Agang supporters another thing, and the DA another.  It is not clear what her objective is, but whatever it is, it is not in the interests of the South African people.  

The DA will nevertheless continue with its historic mission to build a non-racial political alternative in South Africa. We have the values, we have the structures, we have the machinery and we have the depth of leadership to succeed.

Statement issued by DA leader, Helen Zille, February 2 2014

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hope mamphele will issue her own version of events soon
probably zille and company were ruthlessly trying to dismember agang and abuse its leader by using her for elections then give the kudos to her younger proteges whilst ramphele is more interested in a partnership of equals.

by what shameful petty politics on February 02 2014, 20:14
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Stinking and caked socks of DAgang.
Magtig.

by D.r. Gomolemo Mokae's cousin in Ga-Rankuwa on February 02 2014, 20:16
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Just not cricket...
......this was just clumsily handled. A deal concocted by those MBA types with zero political pedigree and sold to political veterans who should know better. Now everyone is a loser, and must work hader to restore what's left of their reputation. What a . .more

by Just Me. on February 02 2014, 20:16
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Do I hear the sound of DA flip-flops yet again?
Democrazy in action = the strongest argument for aristocracy.

by Realist on February 02 2014, 20:21
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Good news...
Hopefully the DA learnt from this debacle... clearly their screening process is not so good, or maybe it is good but was overturned by powerful voices...

The DA can recover from this and the public may even forgive them, but from now until the . .more

by . on February 02 2014, 20:25
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@ fullstop
Given your role as resident ANC troll, who gives a damn what you think.

Be that as it may, I agree that it is a good thing that the DA has shown MR the door. Unfortunately HZs reputation is now seriously dented

by voter on February 02 2014, 20:38
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Dr Ramphele's reneging Helen Zille's offer!
"HELEN ZILLE FOR PRESIDENT!!!"

by Bob Martin on February 02 2014, 20:45
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Helen Zille
"in politics you have to be prepared to be in a bad space several times a day, but you have to learn to swallow hard and get on with it" - Helen Zille

How true your words are. Indeed, Helen, you must be in a bad space right now knowing that the . .more

by Capetonian on February 02 2014, 20:46
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@ .
You can carry on doing the ANC's dirty work, knowing that you will never be Helen Zille's equal in integrity.

by Capetonian on February 02 2014, 20:51
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Dr Rampalele's vicissitudes.....

I have it on good authority that Dr Rampalele will be announcing this week that she is joining the EFF as Julius' "Presidential candidate"

OR

Possibly the Freedom Front, as their Presidential candidate.

She is just waiting . .more

by Bobbejaan klim die berg!! So haastig en lastig................ on February 02 2014, 20:54
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@by Capetonian on February 02 2014, 20:51
How do you know this? You think you know me? tut tut...very shallow analysis on your part.

The ANC does not have to do any dirty work, its opposition implodes without any external assistance...

The problem they now have is that by . .more

by . on February 02 2014, 20:57
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@by voter on February 02 2014, 20:38
I give a damn. How many do your believe give a damn about what you think?

by . on February 02 2014, 20:58
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Talk about not even touching ground....

She has not yet even been inducted into the DA circus, and she is already on her way out...... And I thought Julia Gillard and her supporters were a joke.

I vet my garden laborer, domestic servant or employee more diligently than Helen Silly . .more

by Krasnaya Izvesdiya. on February 02 2014, 21:16
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All over
Whatever your politics, MR's conduct must be seen as bizarre. It must be over for her in politics.

by Paul Whelan on February 02 2014, 21:20
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The truth
The real truth is that we are privileged to have in Helen Zille, one of the greatest political leaders in the WORLD today. I struggle to think of any world leader who is as impressive as her.

So, of course, Helen is the obvious candidate for . .more

by Sad Days on February 02 2014, 21:38
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@sad days
Surely a good presidential candidate is one with the foresight not to get their party into this kind of pickle? RW Johnson for President, anyone?

by Robin on February 02 2014, 21:49
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@. on Feb 2 2014 20:25
The DA will take the knock , get up and move forward. These things make you stronger in life. I'm happy that you have found a niche in life to critize the DA - they do need it from time to time. I prefer the simpler task of critizing the ANC . It is so . .more

by Rock Rabbit on February 02 2014, 21:55
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the best way to start getting out of a hole
is to stop digging.
It was clear after Rhampele's statement yesterday that the quickie marriage revealed that the marriage bed was not the soft and cuddly place it was supposed to be but rather a bed of rocks spiked with vipers.
Rhampele . .more

by Pangolin on February 02 2014, 22:01
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@ sad days
Zille might be quite good in a parochial sort of way but she is most certainly NOT one of the best politicians in the world.
Why is it that South Africans prefer their "leaders" to be shaped in the heroic mould?
There is nothing heroic about . .more

by Pangolin on February 02 2014, 22:07
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Zille - Ramphela Fiasco
What are joke by this bunch of loosers

by Sizwe on February 02 2014, 22:19
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Zille-Rampela fiasco
What a joke by this power hungry bunch of loosers if not morons. They need politics 101 to save themselves from embarrassment, these are fundis in politics who need a proper political guidance from their foreign masters

by Sizwe on February 02 2014, 22:24
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@ Sad Days
Perhaps you are aware that Prof Jonathan Jansen said a few years ago that he had decided to abstain from voting, but in case you did not read the article he wrote: Around the time of the last elections, Prof Jansen visited a very poor town in the Orange . .more

by Capetonian on February 02 2014, 22:26
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This all proves one thing.
Dont go looking for a black leader. Even the best of the dark ones can't be trusted for even a week. Zuma is the best black leader South Africa can supply.We have run out of Mandelas.

by Guy Mullins on February 02 2014, 22:28
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@Pangolin
We all have an opinion of the "best leader" but what is heroic about Zuma? He is , after all, the leader chosen by the party supported by the most South Africans

by Rock Rabbit on February 02 2014, 22:29
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sorry to go on with comments but allow me one last one
Have you read the second paragraph of Zille's statement.
frankly I find the first sentence shocking.
Now, I am certainly not naiive and I understand a thing or two about commercial take overs and mergers and that assets of one company whether in . .more

by Pangolin on February 02 2014, 22:34
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Zille- and Ramphele fiasco
Ziile is just as guilty as Ramphele. In any western country the leader normally resign after a fiasco like this.

Zille is a dictator. She even wants to decide here successor and according to here the new leader MUST be black. Coloureds, whites . .more

by Republican on February 02 2014, 22:36
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Helen to resign
Helen Zille should resign over this historic debacle. She clearly is an embarrassment for the DA and the whole of South Africa. I will surely not vote DA again. What about a new political party - for equality, not AA and BEE!

by Paul Revere on February 02 2014, 22:41
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Shame....
Desperate Alliance showed how autocratic decisions result in trying to blame desperate supporter -less leaders quest for power at all costs. DA - THANK GOODNESS THE ANC is in govt. Only the ANC CAN DO IT

by Democraticless on February 02 2014, 22:52
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@Pangolin
"Why is it that South Africans prefer their "leaders" to be shaped in the heroic mould?"

Because:
a) a tribal society at its base needs heroes who can lead the laager to the promised land.
b) a wounded society is in constant need of . .more

by DV on February 02 2014, 22:53
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@Republican
We are not a western country. Zuma did not resign after multiple corruption and sex scandals. Why should Zille resign because of an arrangement broken by the other party? You should be calling for Mumpy's resignation

by Rock Rabbit on February 02 2014, 22:58
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Like Zuma, the Zille must go
We have the values, we have the structures, we have the machinery and we have the depth of leadership to succeed
and how do you display this by repeatedly showing disrespect for the membership and the parties
The inevitable has happened. Best . .more

by South African Liberal on February 02 2014, 23:19
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@Rock Rabbit
Yes, but you do know that South African liberalism is based on western values such as accountability, non-racialism and "DEMOCRACY"?

So your logic is to bring Zuma into the frame. Zille is merely starting the process of leading the DA to the same . .more

by Republican on February 02 2014, 23:28
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zille
How on earth could anybody think Zille is the greatest politician in the world. She took over from Leon who built the party. She
. She no doubt believes that there are huge numbers of sensible blacks just waiting to team up with her and the DA - . .more

by greg on February 02 2014, 23:29
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clear air again
Wow. At least the air is a bit clearer again. Ever since last week's sudden announcement there's been a journalistic fog - peevish and grudging people begrudging this sudden move, analysts doubting the value of the event, commentators probing the concerns . .more

by mudlark on February 02 2014, 23:33
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@Rock Rabbit
Just to be clear: Zille and Ramphele should both resign from their leadership positions. They went over the heads of the voters and party members with no mandate and concocted a farce.

Since when does a candidate becomes a presidential candidate . .more

by Republican on February 02 2014, 23:40
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Disappointing, to say the least!
I always thought Helen Zille was a highly intelligent street-smart cookie.

So it's disappointing to note that she could not see through MR after their first failed attempt to get a relationship going. Ramphele is clearly a political prostitute to . .more

by Lord Percy on February 02 2014, 23:52
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DA Dr Rams Honeymoon
We congratulated you DA-Zille on what you saw as a "political scoop". We knew that this was a recipe for disaster. As for Dr Rams, I lost respect for her as a seasoned brain in SA to make a meaningful contribution to the politics of the country. Well . .more

by Kenosi on February 03 2014, 00:00
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HZ vs RR
First the labour debacle and now the Agang debacle...what's next? Eish, DA you are losing face and especially with your traditional supporters....

by Pietpompies on February 03 2014, 00:13
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Dr Ramphele's Shocking Reneging of her Legal Agreement
It was I who saw the real potential in the now stillborn merger and solution for SA's woes.
I cannot say that I am not bitterly disappointed, but hey, this is Africa and we have once more been witness to the lack of values and morals that seems to . .more

by Gdoyi on February 03 2014, 00:29
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Fine friends
you have Black Sash Helen. All you had to do was to rail every day against E tolls....
but you thought that you needed just one more black face around you. Illusion beats substance seems to be the new battle cry of the DA.

by Walter on February 03 2014, 00:55
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Nicely said @Gdoyi
Great visionary leaders are prepared to take risks. You obviously risk failure, but better to try and fail than to do nothing.

Also, by taking decisive action you risk making enemies from those who don't agree with your actions. The weak leaders . .more

by Sad Days on February 03 2014, 03:18
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A dozen eggs in your face Helen
I think the DA needs to call for an urgent re-elective conference. Helen is making a fool out of the party. It is sickening to watch. She relied on emotion and now look what she has done. She MUST tender her resignation immediately and be replaced by . .more

by DA supporter on February 03 2014, 04:47
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Frustration & bright side
Why take your your frustrations on Zille? It is Ramaphele who turned out to be the flawed one. Go back to the statements she made on national television last Tuesday. Pity the action failed. It was the right thing to do even if it stepped on the ambitions . .more

by Bokdrol on February 03 2014, 05:09
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P
All tarred with the same brush - arrogant parasites

by Misanthrope on February 03 2014, 06:07
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Mbeki - mashele brainless product
We must not forget that this is a brainless product of Moleketsi Mbeki and Prince Mashele. This are other characters who think they have a monopoly of wisdom while their collective wisdom as the said strategists cant deliver a living organism. MBEKI is an . .more

by Sizwe on February 03 2014, 06:32
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Time for a change of tack
Over the last 6 months, the DA leadership has lurched every which way in pursuit of what it thinks is heightened credibility in the eyes of disaffected black ANC voters. In this they have: (i) supported racially based, divisive and economically unsound . .more

by Thinker77 on February 03 2014, 06:43
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MR
would it be accurate to say MR was a premature ejaculation !!

by Green Room on February 03 2014, 07:19
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@ everyone
I have it on good authority that . (dot) is actually Gwede Mantashe.

by Court Jester on February 03 2014, 07:45
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Ramphele sucks
This lady's ego definitely got the better part of herself.

by Observer on February 03 2014, 07:59
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At last
At last sanity has prevailed, I am happy that MR has seen DA for what it is (White Party)

by Mgababa on February 03 2014, 08:07
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Fire Zille
This was a gross miscalculation by Zille allowing her emotions of friendship to cloud her judgement with the result that the DA is now significantly weaker in the eye's of undecided voters prior to the elections. I trust the DA and will replace Zille as . .more

by Fire Zille on February 03 2014, 08:18
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Weathercock x Blondie
Ms RM has the steadfastness of a Pedi Wind Vane
Mrs HL the gullibility of a dumb-bl...
Don't they...?

by Injala Apera on February 03 2014, 08:21
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DON'T WORRY
MR has no 'presence' and would NEVER have been a leader! Good riddance!!! Helen was sucked into believing this really uninteresting woman.


by MN on February 03 2014, 08:28
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Ramphele is a want to be leader
Dr. Ramphele seams to be A want to be leader with no inner strengths .

The DA is very lucky Dr. Rampele showed her real face now .

by Manfred Schmidt on February 03 2014, 08:33
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mamphele
Wants to be absolute queen bee, she and winnie should get together in the boxing ring or do a mud wrestle. Ha Ha. Pity I used to think Mamps was sincere and had a brain.

by Gaina on February 03 2014, 08:36
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Zille & Zuma
A true leader is recognised by the fruit they bear.

by Wizz on February 03 2014, 08:37
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@ ANC propagandists
The DA / AGANG story will hog the headlines this week, but the ANC should remember that the opposition is irrelevant when you are your own worse enemy:

What happened at the Relela Police Station should be a warning.


by Another DA supporter on February 03 2014, 08:38
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What is politics about?
This illustrates very clearly what is politics about - POWER? It has nothing to do with values, principles and good solid policies built on the real needs of voters. The DA has now scrambled time and time again. First they back tracked on BBEEE and AA and . .more

by Willem on February 03 2014, 08:40
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AA and transformation: Epic Fail!!
Bwa-ha-ha! What an epic fail! This is the same DAGGAng party that, a while ago, openly embraced RACIST AA and BEE as its official policies. Now AA and BEE have bitten DAGGAng badly - token blacks an' all.

Red Helen's career is over. They can't . .more

by Boer on February 03 2014, 08:42
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@DA
Remember to stay humble. Your arrogance almost reached the levels of RM.
Time for the DA to do more in the informal settlements and not court disasters. Stick to the basics and stay humble.
By the way - you lost my vote some time ago - I now . .more

by Ric on February 03 2014, 08:52
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@ Thinker77
Well said. Never thought I would say so, but I also washed my hand off the DA after their eager signing of the BEE bill. The DA has decided to do away with its democratic, liberal values - and, I am afraid, with their traditional supporters as well.

by Ex DA on February 03 2014, 08:55
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Ramphele reneging on her agreement with Helen Zille
A difficult situation. But I really don't see Ramphele as a sophisticated politician - she effectively knows nothing about it. As for starting a political party, whatever Agang means, it's a nonsense title for any political party. Ramphele should return . .more

by Mike Thurgood on February 03 2014, 08:57
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Really people
Mamphela is a joke. This was highlighted so clearly by RW Johnson last week. The DA is having to fix their oversight. Everyone has them. At least down right stupidity, unethical behaviour and popularity for abusing power has never been demonstrated by the . .more

by Honest on February 03 2014, 09:07
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Helen and Mamphele and Bill Johnson
I have no wish to comment directly on or speculate about what either helen or Mamphele was thinking about before or immediately after the announcement last Tuesday that the latter accepted the DA's presidential candidacy. It did strike me as strange, in . .more

by James Bell on February 03 2014, 09:18
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Sudden retreat
I think it it very sad situation because Dr R should have utilised an already established platform to get up and running. Her retreat is like buying a new car, damaging it and then expecting the retailer to take it back, You just don't that - surely . .more

by Lolla on February 03 2014, 09:21
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@James Bell
The DA cultist attacked the character of Mr. Johnson. Mr. Johnson is still a liberal although a liberal with honour.

These other DA's have no honour and this will in the end be their downfall.

I'll rather remain a liberal Afrikaner . .more

by Republican on February 03 2014, 09:29
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Voters need to wake up and realise this is not a game
All these people above who huff and puff and think they are so clever declaring they no longer vote for the DA, in my opinion come across as people who just don't seem to understand the situation

What do we all want ? A party that can run a city, . .more

by Sad Days on February 03 2014, 09:30
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@Krasnaya Izvesdiya Feb 2 21.16
A little word of advice: Do not get irritated by @Dot. His self declared purpose is to run interference for the ANC like the good apologist he is, during which he will pounce on anything negative that happens in opposition circles that can divert . .more

by James Bell on February 03 2014, 09:37
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@Mgababa

Firstly let me preface what I have to say by stating that I am not anti-Black 'per se.'

However, so what if the DA is a party mainly supported by people of European descent, with a mandate to look after the interests of White South . .more

by The Pied Piper. on February 03 2014, 09:40
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@Sad Days
Nonsense

The DA is already turning into the ANC. Cape Town is not South Africa. Your "either-or" (false dilemma) fallacy does not hold water. There is many other options.

To merely follow the DA as the "the only option' is ridiculous. . .more

by Republican on February 03 2014, 09:57
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I applaud dr
I am glad that dr mamphele did not follow patricia de lille's footsteps and be swallowed by a da shark. Zille bought de lille convincing her she will represent coloured people, what happened to her. She thought she could by the dr to represent africans . .more

by Maglo on February 03 2014, 09:59
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@Sad Days
To challenge the ANC you need to offer an alternative, not just be anti-ANC and hope that there are enough disaffected people out there who'll waste their vote a contrariness rather than constructiveness. All the recent ill-advised flip flopping by the . .more

by Thinker77 on February 03 2014, 10:10
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ZILLE/RAMPHELE
the DA does not need her! ZILLE for president,RAMPHELE has just shown the public she cannot be trusted ,i think the DA has gained more points,bring on,the ELECTIONS,no two thirds majority for the ANC ,VIVA THE DA

by KEVIN ALDRIDGE on February 03 2014, 10:14
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Ramphele fiasco
"9:50 - Trollip: It's important to make place for black African leaders. But we must grow our own timbre. Not parachute people in."

"9:52 - Trollip: I do NOT think it is necessary for the next leader of the party to be black . .more

by Republican on February 03 2014, 10:26
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@Republican
The DA's dilemma is that they need to get more of the uneducated, unthinking voters' votes. 50% of them still believe the ludicrous lie that the DA want to bring back apartheid. The ANC propaganda machine continues to spread this misinformation. The ANC . .more

by Sad days on February 03 2014, 10:32
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P
What else did you expect from these amoebas !

by Misanthrope on February 03 2014, 11:09
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Hands up now! When you heard Zille had set foot in Guptastan
No twinges about her integrity?

by Brett on February 03 2014, 11:12
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@Krasnaya Izvesdiya
To change your vote from the DA to the EFF suggests that, because you believe that this debacle has sullied the DA's integrity or reputation, you are prepared to counter by further destroying the economy rather than helping rebuild an economy so . .more

by Anthony Caenazzo on February 03 2014, 11:26
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@Sad days and @Republican (1)
Sad days, I am afraid that you are making the mistake that the liberals have been making for the last 100+ years, namely to think that their liberal ideology is a one size fits all nations and cultures and language groups. It obviously does not, as borne . .more

by James Bell on February 03 2014, 11:30
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The truth of the matter
The truth of the matter is than Helen Zille knows, and South Africans know that the DA can only go so far, but not far enough without a black individual, and a high profile one at that, at the top (unfortunate racist SA politics) of its party.
MR . .more

by Wizard on February 03 2014, 11:34
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Now the headlines read "Mampele dumps DA!"
Could it be worse?

by Brett on February 03 2014, 11:38
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@Sad days and @Republican (2)
A few years back the ANC lost control of Cape Town to a coalition. This coalition worked so well that at the next election the largest part in the coalition, the DA, won an outright majority. What did the DA do? It swallowed one coalition partner and . .more

by James Bell on February 03 2014, 11:39
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DA and Mamphele
You cannot trust African. Tough lesson for DA. What can you expect from someone who cannot even pronounce her own name.
Her only claim to fame was to know when and to whom spread her legs.

by Pliny the Elder on February 03 2014, 11:55
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Pangolin for President
(Note the alliteration). Most of us enjoy Pangolin's insights. Now, if he was just more careful with the grammar - you know, commas, capitals, apostrophes, full stops, etc

by John Galt on February 03 2014, 11:58
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Try Juju or Terror
Cde Helen, I'm sorry about the short marriage with MR. Why can't you now try other potential presidential candidates like Julius Malela or Terror Lekota? Surely, these may also assist that DA to penetrate Soweto; Tembisa; Umlazi; or Mamelodi!!

by Mark on February 03 2014, 12:01
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Helen Zille Triumphant
Classic Helen Zille on ENCA press conference this morning between 10h00 and 11h30. To any commentators who have not taken the trouble to listen to the full press conference with a reasonably open mind, do not bother to respond to this posting as you . .more

by Herman Schroder on February 03 2014, 12:23
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Rampele mmpele malela pingpingpela
Ag this is just politics. Very many people in the DA did not approve of the liaison. I suppose Rampele did not like the blue t-shirt of the DA. Perhaps, know knows, perhaps she likes the red beret more.

Its over and done now - water . .more

by Marie van Graan - Westonaria on February 03 2014, 13:48
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@ Schroder
Or you can read what Van Onselen has to say in today's bdlive. These mea culpa maunderings from HZ are becoming tedious. It seems that the DA is now seriously lacking in intellectual gravitas. As a supporter of 45 years I find this . .more

by voter on February 03 2014, 15:29
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@by James Bell on February 03 2014, 09:18
I did not deride Bill Johnsons article on DA-Agang. Highlight one comment on that specific thread where I did. Why do you not tell the truth instead of misinformation? I mean it really is so easy to check the thread.

by . on February 03 2014, 16:12
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Professional black female begone
I'm glad Ramphele Mamphara has gone into the west. Always seemed something insincere about her, always too smug to have got into high office, always seemed too entitled.

by Acid Mind on February 03 2014, 17:01
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Hellen Zille must go
The Zille must go, Trollip will take us to the polls, successfully.
Zille is a racialist looking for a twin black face to lead our party.
She has pushed the white founding fathers aside nationally, because this black woman disguised as a white . .more

by South African Liberal on February 03 2014, 19:02
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DA-AGANG "KISS OF DEATH"
Just as predicted- A very short 5 days Honeymoon after the Lovey Dovey Kissy Huggy spotlight marriage.
Point made, reality dawned, prophesy fulfilled-The DA-AGANG marriage & honey moon is over. 'THE KISS OF DEATH' AS PREDICTED!!!!
What we can . .more

by Kenosi on February 03 2014, 19:18
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Derision
The mindless defense of the indefensible against your own better knowledge is a form of derision.

I am not the only person who have pointed out time and time again that your defense of the ANC is stereotypical of an ANC cadre, makes use of . .more

by James Bell on February 03 2014, 19:43
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Kenosi, what kind of people would you say predominate in ANC?
Stupid people? Or Racists? Or stupid racists?

Illiterates? Educated people? Working class people? Educated illiterates?

by Brett on February 03 2014, 20:17
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Hellen has lost it
In my end of the world many people who have previously voted DA and have over the last term began to accept the DA as an alternative government or a much stronger opposition are now questioning the character of the party and are not sure where they are . .more

by South African Liberal on February 03 2014, 21:16
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@by James Bell on February 03 2014, 19:43
I never admitted I was a sophist a all. You really are full of nonsense and made up stuff. Your mind is going James. Go point me to the comment to substantiate your claim.

I contribute because I want to and I don't need you to tell what to do or . .more

by . on February 03 2014, 22:38
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@ Kenosi
Hey Kenosi, You obviously write all the ANC's speeches including the sign language interpreters version of Zuma's mumbo jumbo. Did you both go to the same school ?

by Herman Schroder on February 04 2014, 08:10
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Demystify Alliances
The DA has certainly lost my confidence. In business we undertake proper due diligence and yes, sometimes even this cannot guarantee results, yet there is accountability. In politics I would expect the same, however the lack of total transparency and . .more

by Suzy Q on February 04 2014, 10:15
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@Dot
I was taught to always tell the truth. The truth is always the same and consequently you never have to worry what you said in the past. But if you are evasive or even worse flippant when cornered then you can not remember what you say from one week to the . .more

by James Bell on February 04 2014, 10:50
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ZILLE/RAMPHELE
This must have come as a great disappointment to you, Helen. However, rather that you know the situation now than later!.

by Marianne Hall on February 07 2014, 11:44
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