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War has been declared against transformation - Mogoeng Mogoeng

Mogoeng Mogoeng
10 July 2013

Chief Justice warns that the danger of disguised protection of white male privilege must be averted (July 6)

Address by Mogoeng Mogoeng, Chief Justice of the Republic of South Africa, to Advocates for Transformation Annual General Meeting Dinner, Cape Town, July 6 2013

The Duty to Transform

Advocate Ntsebeza SC, the leader of Advocates for Transformation, Justice Madlanga, colleagues in the Judiciary , Advocate Semenya SC, the Chairperson of the GCB, Deputy Chairperson Motimele, esteemed members of the AFT Executive, Professor Z Motala, distinguished guests , fellow South Africans, I greet you.

For the overwhelming majority of black South Africans the wounds and excruciating pain caused by centuries of being subjected to psychological trauma and merciless "beatings" are still fresh and sharp. The poverty, lack of real economic opportunities and the apparent resistance to change by a good number of fellow South Africans, who benefitted tremendously from the excellent educational and economic opportunities reserved exclusively for them by the apartheid system, can only serve as a constant and rude reminder to the victims of poverty and limited opportunities for career and professional advancement.

A reminder of what the major cause of their suffering was and who the beneficiaries were. And when they do remember, the question they are bound to ask themselves is, "has the apartheid system really been dismantled, or has it only changed marginally or has a grouping of its key operators metamorphosed into a movement that masquerades as agents for the enforcement of constitutional compliance when they are in fact a change resistance force?

Given the pain, the deprivation and the dehumanization that the apartheid system was intended to cause and did in fact bring about, it is of great importance that we do everything within our power as South Africans of all races, to avert the dangers that a disguised protection of white male privilege, at the expense of opening up opportunities for women and black men, is loaded with.

One of the progressive and giant steps taken by both the Attorneys' Profession and the Advocates' Profession is the introduction of rotational leadership. This arrangement had to be made because white male South Africans who, as recent media reports have correctly shown, overwhelmingly dominate both professions and will be in the majority for many years to come, would otherwise almost always be in the leadership of these organisations.

Of concern to me is, knowing that the apartheid system did, by design, empower white male lawyers and disadvantage black and women legal practitioners, do these bodies and their individual members have a plan and the willpower to transform the professions, not cosmetically but radically .

And by transformation I mean, among other things, destroying whatever hurdles might still be standing in the way of many women and black lawyers joining these professions, by consistently reminding government departments, state-funded institutions and big business of the need to create equal opportunities for all South African lawyers with a favourable disposition towards women and black male practitioners.

In cases involving areas of law which white male senior counsel are believed to be possessed of special skills which women and black lawyers are, rightly or wrongly, believed not to have, black Attorneys and junior Advocates should in the case of state-funded institutions be prioritised for support and in the case of government departments and legislatures, black junior Advocates and women Advocates should be affirmed.

That way women and black Attorneys would stay in the profession. Big business should help dispel the apartheid myth that black and women practitioners only have the brains for straightforward criminal cases and divorce matters.

This goal will be achieved by entrusting them with complex matters, at least as junior counsel and by giving instructions to women and black Attorneys. Instructions and brief allocation with particular regard to race and gender must be seriously reconsidered.

You can check from the record of appearances in the Constitutional Court. More than ninety percent of appearances before that Court are white and male. Occasionally a junior would be a white woman. Attorneys, senior and junior counsel seldom appear in that court. My colleagues in other courts told me that the trend is similar in all other courts in relation to matters of importance.

It should therefore not be surprising that the attrition rate of Attorneys and Advocates who are women and black men is said to be disturbingly high. Needless to say, you need high quality work to grow and grow faster. This is neither an encouragement for spoon-feeding or any entitlement syndrome nor is it something to be apologetic about. It is an historic matter of crucial importance which cries out for urgent attention.

Based on the instructions-giving and briefing patterns before the Constitutional Court, it appears that South Africans are yet to appreciate their duty to help transform the profession and by extension the Judiciary.

No wonder we only hear voices critical of transformation when matters affecting the JSC and its recommendations are discussed. None of the personalities and NGO's who speak regularly and passionately about the perceived areas of concern about the JSC processes and even litigate about them, have ever spoken with any , let alone equal passion against the conservative apartheid-style instruction-giving and briefing patterns. They seem to be more concerned about white men who are not appointed and do not seem to be concerned about the reasons for not recommending them for appointment.

Members of the organised profession ought to lead the charge on the transformation of the profession and the Judiciary. Sadly, they are conspicuous by their silence. I followed with much interest the debates about briefing patterns recently.

I expected many women and black lawyers to speak out in support of Advocate Ntsebeza. To my disappointment, he was literally a lone ranger or a soloist. It is time for a brutal introspection by this and other lawyers' associations, if they are to remain relevant to the national constitutional agenda of delivering to posterity, a transformed, reconciled and united rainbow nation.

You are the transformation agents. For this reason, this body, the BLA, NADEL, SAWLA, IAWJ and other truly progressive organisations must work together to defeat the resistance to transformation that is now embarked upon with more vigour and boldness.

When black men and women of all races were appointed to higher courts for the first time, those opposed to change voiced a concern about the so-called lowering of standards. The same argument has changed tag a bit, lately. It was initially said that there was no commitment by the JSC to gender representation.

Suddenly, it changed to the alleged bias against white men. Some of the advocates of gender representation even nominated and openly fought for the appointment of a white man and inexplicably jettisoned their campaign for gender representation. When "unwanted" white males were appointed they were labelled executive-friendly.

These developments seem to suggest that war has been declared against transformation. People are clutching at straws to discredit the JSC. They seem to want the JSC they can dictate to. The same people or organisations who are accusing the JSC of being controlled by politicians are beginning to look like they want to control the JSC themselves.

I have come to challenge you and other genuinely progressive bodies to resist all efforts geared at the protection white male dominance in the professions and the Bench and the equation of the appointment of black and women practitioners to the institutionalization of mediocrity.

The apparent discomfort with the progress we are making in transforming the Judiciary, as if we are about to encroach into the no go area of privileged interests, and the concomitant boldly declared struggle for "white male" appointment, even if it would result in the perpetuation of their historic over-representation, must be dealt with decisively.

You must no longer allow this voice of resistance to be the only voice in the public domain. It disseminates toxic inaccuracies which have the potential to cause some reputational damage to our Judiciary nationally and abroad, as I learnt in London last week.

And for the record, many white males have been recommended for appointment by the JSC over the years. It is for them and those who know them better to say whether they are "executive toys" and incompetent as alleged.

The point to be emphasized though is that a deliberate attempt is being made to delegitimize the JSC and through some scare tactics intimidate or mock the JSC into recommending without proper reflection, certain white men and at times certain women, for reasons best known to those who are campaigning for them.

This illegitimate neo-political campaign to have certain people appointed must be strongly opposed. We must all use all available avenues to expose this retrogressive campaign and the danger it poses to nation-building and reconciliation. But be warned, that engagement is not for the faint-hearted.

The defence of genuine transformation, as was the case during apartheid, inevitably attracts mockery, being labelled conservative and a tool of the Executive. Be ready for untold attacks from all sorts of people projecting themselves as fiercely independent, impartial, progressive analysts or highly respected professional commentators. Be ready to be trashed by a well coordinated network of individuals and entities often pretending to be working in isolation from each other.

Remember, during apartheid whenever you were a puppet or the powers that-be thought you had the potential to be cajoled into becoming one, you were addressed as ‘'n goeie man" or "good man". Nowadays those who seem to have arrogated to themselves the role of being masters of our destinies would label or crown you "highly or well respected" or "progressive".

I need not tell you what the innumerable antonyms of these expressions are. Don't be lured by these anti-transformation schemes. And don't be selfish. Use your privileged position of influence for the benefit of the rainbow nation and posterity, but not in the furtherance of questionable sectarian interests or agendas .  

I THANK YOU. MAY GOD BLESS YOU !

Source: Office of the Chief Justice of the Republic of South Africa

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Strange how things say the same
This illegitimate English campaign to have certain people appointed must be strongly opposed. We must all use all available avenues to expose this retrogressive campaign and the danger it poses to volkskapitalisme. But be warned, that engagement is not . .more

by @roguescrivener on July 10 2013, 12:52
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Once a whites racist always a whites racist ...albeit in different guise
1994 did not cleanse whites of racism and none of the whites racists received counselling or any assistance to stop being racists. They now appear in different forms like afriforum, agri sa etc...they are all racist and have one thing in common, that is . .more

by Phondvo lemnikati on July 10 2013, 13:55
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Of course merit and ability to perform correctly are unimportant
Just as long as you have a black face and are female. Pathetic person this Mogoe or whatever his name is.

by Mogoes on July 10 2013, 14:13
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Honourable Mogoeng; since 1994 they have been fighting QUIETLY against Economic Transformation.
So we also do they same, keep QUIET and SLOWLY chaff down this TRANSFORMATION thing down their throats using LEGAL and ILLEGAL means during the DAY and at NIGHT! Hehehehe, they must know us by now....WE ALWAYS WIN no matter how long it takes. B******* . .more

by Mute Fool_Makoya on July 10 2013, 14:23
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pre '94
Get over it, rise above it.......or can't you? Then you will need many laws that will merely entrench your current perceptions. Many have, why can't you?

by ja well no fine on July 10 2013, 14:36
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SOTE
Whingers and parasites - one and all !

by Pleb on July 10 2013, 14:39
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The transformation
Judge Moegoeng knows all about white resistance campaign against transformation post 1994, they resisted his appointment, they used white racist print media, they cartoon him as bufoon who is gender insensitive. All this was done because they did not . .more

by zulu carpet on July 10 2013, 14:56
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Do I smell an organized comment campaign?
Let us have our equity, justics and fairness. Let us not have a zealot of transformation using our history as an excuse to politicise the judiciary to the extent that it is no longer able to act as a balance to the executive and the legislature. Just look . .more

by Mani on July 10 2013, 16:07
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Transformation
The war the honourable Chief Justice taking about in his sector is a microsim of what is happening to the rest of the country. Everything black is incompetent , lazy, corrupt, got your job because of cadre deployment and lowering of standards.

. .more

by Nkuza on July 10 2013, 16:11
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chief justice why dont you also defend the medical profession
where doctors,medical professors are treated like blue collar workers - salaries stopped unprocedurally,shouted down like illeterates by government and anc spokesmen and now threated to remove their professional independence by government paying their . .more

by vuma on July 10 2013, 17:13
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And the tide turn. Today it is blacks who are the racist.
Comments on this page and Moegeng clearly show how pathetic blacks have turned into racist. No moral high ground, they could not stand up and be the better people. And so many blacks sink into the quackmire of racism.

by tokolosh on July 10 2013, 18:07
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He is completely unsuitable to be Chief Justice. This rant proves it zulu carpet on July 10 2013, 1...
your excuse must just be plain ignorance?

by Brett on July 10 2013, 18:16
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Transformational acumen

A terribly sad situation.

by Ophthal on July 10 2013, 18:49
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Perception

Unless I have completely misinterpreted the message sent out by the Honourable Chief Justice Mogoeng, he is castigating the white members of the legal profession for allowing their legal knowledge, lack of bias, perspicacity, maturity of outlook, . .more

by Ophthal on July 10 2013, 19:30
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Lol!
The White Man brought this piece of turd his "God!" (and then some)

by Cap'n Haddock on July 10 2013, 20:26
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Beneath the surface
...lies thinly-veiled hate. And a deep, intense desire for revenge.
How clearly this shows the great divide... It will always be us and them. Roman Dutch and tribal...
It would be better - right now - to split the country and be done with it. To . .more

by Barabbus on July 10 2013, 21:06
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Transformation is antiwhite racism
Can we trust this "judge" to judge a white male impartially? I doubt it! Hopefully not too many white males become subject to his "judgements"". Remember he is just another Zuma stooge.

by Antiracist. on July 10 2013, 23:12
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@Mute Fool_Makoya /RACIST TO THE CORE
THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT IS RIDDLED WITH CRONY POLITICS SUPPORTING HIGH LEVEL CORRUPTION
SO ARE YOU You mute fooL, YOU ARE a FOOLISH RACIST AND YOU SHOULD BE MUTE AS YOU ARE TALKING TOTAL RACIST CR@P

by Hola on July 10 2013, 23:14
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Mogoeng Mogoeng ANOTHER RACIST
IT HAS BEEN 20 YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN POWER.

You will NEVER BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING AS YOU HAVE PROVEN OVER CENTURIES.

BUR IT IS EASIER TO BLAME IT ON THE WHITES.

RATHER SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT FELL INTO YOUR . .more

by Hola on July 10 2013, 23:19
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Nothing is stopping you except your colonised mind.
Capital does not reward incompetence by blacks or whites, only when blacks realise this will we be able to move forward. Must be hard always being a victim, sad that a proud people with history and heritage should behave in such a way. Moegoe Moegoe's . .more

by André on July 10 2013, 23:20
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@Mani
I concur, I was a little taken aback by the early comments until I read Mute fool Makoya's entry then I clicked. Anyone remotely in line with Makoya "thinking" has to be cookoo.

I believe Magoeng Macoeng's attributes which earned him the Chief . .more

by Oblio on July 10 2013, 23:38
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PS
Now I remember the last time they gave a high profile case to one of these much vaunted super black intellects - Advocate Malindi, aka Crying free man. That went well now did it not? More of the Pius Langa's and Ncobo's and less of the Moegoe Moegoe's . .more

by Andre on July 10 2013, 23:48
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How disappointing!

When we overwhelmingly voted YES for the end of Apartheid and racial discrimination in 1994, we naively believed that in time we would all be South African citizens; no longer Blacks, Whites, Coloureds and Asians; and living in non-racial . .more

by Mute Fool on July 11 2013, 00:07
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erratum

We voted YES for the end of Apartheid in 1992; not in 1994.

by Mute Fool on July 11 2013, 00:09
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BS
Who defended the the Black president in his alleged rape case ? Was he not white male ?
Shame on you Mogoeng you should have had that Job ,or maybe even better heard the matter.

by Marginalized white male on July 11 2013, 00:31
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Transformation
Transformation should begin with replacing the whole RomaniDutch legal system with Indigenous legal system. The structures of oppression are built into this structure that made colonisation and apartheid survive so long.

by Cosmo on July 11 2013, 03:08
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Transformation = Neo-apartheid
The reason"white male senior counsel are believed to be possessed of special skills which women and black lawyers are, rightly or wrongly, believed not to have" is because of neo-apartheid policies of the ANC government. If selection is not based on merit . .more

by QuoVadis on July 11 2013, 03:32
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They're still droning on...
...about apartheid, geez let it go already. It was so long ago, forget.

by des on July 11 2013, 03:46
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transformation = stealing, discriminating and parasiting on WHITEMAN
transformation = stealing, discriminating and parasiting on WHITEMAN

by Sieg Heil on July 11 2013, 07:01
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Hey, What About Merit?
"Transformation" is just another form of confiscation from the people of greatest ability to people of a preferred colour and race. That makes you a racist, Mr. Mogoeng.

by martin on July 11 2013, 07:09
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The difference between the Advocates for Transformation and the Broederbond
The Broederbond was a secret society. The Advocates for Transformation doesn't have to be secret because misguided left wingers wrote this kind of nonsense into the Constitution.

by Antiracist on July 11 2013, 07:33
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Colour ... and ...Race ... and ... Justice
There is no room for prejudice and social engineering, and indeed, religion in the appointment of judges and the pursuit of justice. The Constitution of this country can only be honoured by integrity and pursuit of the interpretation of the word of the . .more

by tzME on July 11 2013, 07:38
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Racist Agent!

And Moegoe Moegoe himself is a belly-crawling deployed cadre sent by God.

by mike on July 11 2013, 07:43
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@Cosmo
""# Transformation
Transformation should begin with replacing the whole RomaniDutch legal system with Indigenous legal system. The structures of oppression are built into this structure that made colonisation and apartheid survive so long.
by . .more

by Tokolosh on July 11 2013, 07:45
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Shame...

What a deeply flawed, hurt and biased person. So totally blaming the Whites.

He cannot see that the Blacks were entrenched in slavery, not by the Whites, but by their Black tribal leaders and their own culture of non-advancement. For . .more

by Dinks on July 11 2013, 07:45
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@Dinks
Fully agree - the man is simply a racist.

by Democrat on July 11 2013, 07:53
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Racist
He is the chief constitutional Pondo Racist.
We can never ever believe in a judgement of the constitutional court, it will be racist.

How did he get his Law Degree (?) under the WHITE Apartheid Rule !!!!!!!!!!

by otto on July 11 2013, 07:56
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Acting dumb again
No Dingbat, war has been declared against what you call transformation. In other words, institutionalized racism, jobs for pals, unqualified people being appointed because of their skin colour, tribalism, people being appointed into senior judicial . .more

by Airwolf on July 11 2013, 08:14
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Mogoeng
Let's not forget. Mogoeng was appointed by Zuma. He is only doing likewise than Zuma. Also it takes a racist to see a racist. Further more a black cannot be a racist, only whites. It is proven all over the world, because they are angels.

by Willem on July 11 2013, 08:19
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Judge racist friendly racist friendly.
Ahhhhhh so this is why Zuma wanted him.


by Platitudes and Plagiarism on July 11 2013, 08:22
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moegoe moegoe
the slit-eyed yellow zupta stooge with racist tendencies!!! bwa hahahahahha!!!!

by donald on July 11 2013, 08:25
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Not fit to be a judge
So much for that oath to uphold the constitution and serve all sectors in ourcountry

by shiksa on July 11 2013, 08:32
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agree with the Chief Justice
It is now become a tradition if not a well co-ordinated pattern for resistance against transformation. These change resistors are well co-ordinated, well funded and have the power of the media and even use pseudo-independent professional expects to . .more

by lefa on July 11 2013, 08:34
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moegoe
Whine whine whine, rather try to raise your standards.

by Gaina on July 11 2013, 08:41
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Lefa,
In 1994 the state apparatus that the liberation movement inherited and sought to transform was thoroughly distorted by its internal colonial features. On the one hand, there was a relatively well-functioning but authoritarian and rigidly hierachical . .more

by Patrick Sekoe on July 11 2013, 09:39
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Change is painful regardless
I am wondering why will people call Chief Justice names for saying what many Black Lawyers and Interllectuals afraid to say this, it's about bladdy time that we challenge this apartheid mentality of refusing change using the very Constitutional yardstick. . .more

by Lehogonolo on July 11 2013, 09:45
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Lies, lies and more propaganda lies Mogoeng Mogoeng!
Its this kind of anti-white South African propaganda that has led to stage 6 of stage 8 genocide of the white South African community, in particular the farmers and Afrkaners, but which has spilled over into other minorities, who are being murdered . .more

by Campaigner against stage 6 geni=ocide of South African whites and minorities on July 11 2013, 09:46
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Shhhhhhh, everyone; let's just keep quiet and JUST DO IT!
Let's not be stupid like ZIM and upset our trading partners by chasing people around in broad daylight. And we ignore the USELESS CONSTITUTIONAL PAPERS!!

by Mute Fool_Makoya on July 11 2013, 09:51
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MAY GOD BLESS YOU? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
WHAT A MOCKERY OF JUSTICE.

YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN USE GODS NAME YOU EVIL RACIST

by Pinda on July 11 2013, 09:51
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We should transform up rather than down
The reason that many whites are against transformation is because it requires a lowering of standards.
There are many intelligent, competent blacks in South Africa who do not rely on transformation since they are capable of proving their own . .more

by Anthony Caenazzo on July 11 2013, 10:10
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Phew This lunatic rant is unconstitutional in the xtreme
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by DavidJ on July 11 2013, 10:20
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What breaks down all barriers past and present .
Answer : competence ! Whyis this so easily ignored in SA today .

by Kreef on July 11 2013, 10:43
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A TOTAL MISS BY OUR CHIEF JUSTICE
As usual, the people appointed to lead important sectors are not dealing with the elephant in the room and are leading the rest of the country into a merciless ditch. The proverbial elephant is unequal quality of education and career advancement between . .more

by Assertive-Agressive African on July 11 2013, 10:44
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WRONG- A WAR IS BEING DECLARED AGAINST MICROWAVE TRANSFORMATION
Cry thy beloved country...WEEP oh Africa against this so called reverse apartheid. What are we to tell the future generation when this countryy becomes a failed state due to so called freedom fighters inability to see beyond their selfish ambition and . .more

by Assertive-Agressive African on July 11 2013, 10:50
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Bottom line
The bottom line is our Constitution. It is our reference point for all matters legal. We have a Chief justice, guardian of the Constitution who comes out and announce that he will not uphold it. For him, just like his buddy Zuma who appointed him, the law . .more

by Chrono on July 11 2013, 11:08
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The Honourable Judge Mogoeng Mogoeng
Dear Sir - we are all aware that you were appointed by the President, J Zuma. So, of course you have to be loyal to the President. And that is why the rubbish you are talking does not surprise me. You are an instrument in destroying our whole justice . .more

by KoJo on July 11 2013, 11:08
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Another Zupta that will be gone this time next year. Impeach him.
What sort of language is this from the country's chief judicial officer. It is nothing less than a racist call to arms against non-africans in general and white people in particular.

It seems that he is backdooring punitive conditions into the . .more

by DavidJ on July 11 2013, 11:16
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Apex academics - in the legal profession it is the Judiciary
So give us a list of the articles published by Judge Moegoe and important judgements he wrote which were reported?

by Brett on July 11 2013, 11:44
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People have rejected God...
It is time that we Christians humble ourselves and pray that God may heal our land.

The people chose Barrabus over Jesus.

The people chose Mandela over Jesus.

When will the people chose Jesus over man?

by Paul C on July 11 2013, 12:04
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Justice Mogoeng
If Justice Mogoeng was appointed by Zuma, what is wrong with that? De Klerk appointed judges during apartheid and whites did not complain, why now? It is Zuma's constitutional obligation to do so. I think people should challenge what the Judge is raising . .more

by Monde Mvubelo on July 11 2013, 12:15
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Meritocracy = Europeans only?
This nonsensical racist assumption that only Europeans are appointed on merit is a BAAS SKAP attitude which must be dealt with nice and slowly. Is not only in the legal sector, everywhere when a black person is appointed is because is politically correct, . .more

by Shlangu on July 11 2013, 12:16
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Has this man forgotten ....
... that he was once a puppet in the Apartheid legal system? Has he forgotten that he sentenced a man to death under apartheid laws?

Has he forgotten his misogynist justification in reducing a rapist's sentence to a tap on the wrist because the . .more

by Saffer on July 11 2013, 12:17
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Brett, further from above.
Whilst these deep-seated colonial capitalist mentality, as registered on this website, still persist, we Africans will not be able to declare that apartheid in all its evil, dehumanising forms, has been eradicated. Justice Mogoeng, you are not alone in . .more

by Patrick Sekoe on July 11 2013, 12:29
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Concern
Surely this man cannot be the chief justice of South Africa. His seething hatred of white people and whiteness is a serious cause for concern. This man simply does not have the temperament to be a chief justice. His self-hatred and realization that he . .more

by Jay Johnson on July 11 2013, 12:34
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Chief Justice
Mogoeng Mogoeng, so good they named him twice, is saying what a lot of Africans still feel about their former "Masters". RSA should be a place where the colour of your skin did not matter and all are equal before the Law but obviously racism still rears . .more

by mervyco on July 11 2013, 13:12
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Merit is not and cannot be the domain of white.
The level we are at currently is the level of our incompetence. To move to another level we have to assume higher positions in terms of promotions, appointments and transformation. We will not get it right all the time, but it would be better than the . .more

by Musa M. on July 11 2013, 13:35
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not fitting for the head of the concourt....
....but I guess we knew all along about this fella and just been waiting for him to show his spots.....perhaps just the beginning, but I guess he will prove to be a real zuma robot, liar, deeply racist and completely corrupt.....his ending is also . .more

by onlooker on July 11 2013, 13:46
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Schuster movie
The Gods must be crazy to allow this man to be Chief Justice, but as No2 I suppose he follows his master, No1.
Hell hath no fury like a man possessed by the devil -ne
Sorry Seffrica, the cANCer failed you again!!! and always will.

by Valie on July 11 2013, 14:02
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Musa --- "eventually get it right?"
You might be talking about a hundred plus years here so meanwhile the whole country continues to go down the sink. Sorry for you but you need to appoint on merit and those appointed have to teach those not quite up to it within a certain time frame. Use . .more

by BEE is for failed incompetent people on July 11 2013, 14:03
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Domt include white women in this rubbish
Do well educated and able black lawyers really go along with this? Speaking as a white professional woman this is ludicrous. White women in this country have suffered no educational disadvantage as compared to white men. On the contrary. Many white women . .more

by White woman on July 11 2013, 14:54
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@Musa
Do you really feel it is better to put an African in a position he/she has not the training or experience, just because they have a black skin? Yes give training and then transform a job, but do not expect it to be done properly just because someone has . .more

by Mervyco on July 11 2013, 14:57
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@ tokolosh
Please! Neanderthals had brains!!! These non-humans are throw-backs or have simply never become modern man!

by John Logan on July 11 2013, 14:58
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@Monde Mvubelo
Maybe they pick the white candidates because they can spell.

by pikkin on July 11 2013, 15:13
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reflect
His judgments in ConCourt seem well reasoned, but his utterances are political and he needs to rein himself in. What he should be doing is open access to court for all instead of politicising.

by Harms' way on July 11 2013, 15:17
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@Shlangu
As far as I recall, the 6% that was referred to was in relation to the number of people who were qualified for a specific posts within the Cape Town Government. It showed the number of people who applied for the various posts, across the racial divide . .more

by pikkin on July 11 2013, 15:36
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Argumentum ad absurdum
I want neither a black nor a white legal representative, nor male nor female. I seek a good and competent legal representative - with a competence borne out of experience, learning and earning the right to be respected in his/her profession. I doubt . .more

by Thinker77 on July 11 2013, 16:10
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WTF
Is it other peoples problem that no black woman show up to your fu*&^ing interviews?


by Grif on July 11 2013, 16:34
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Denialism of the De Klerk Foundation in favour of a comfortable lie.
Denialism is choosing to deny reality as a way to avoid an uncomfortable truth. Author Paul O'Shea remarks, "[It] is the refusal to accept an empirically verifiable reality. It is an essentially irrational action that withholds validation of a historical . .more

by Veja on July 11 2013, 16:49
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What a shame the folk squabble about the racial composition of appointments rather than their abilit...

It's a greater pity that the Chief Justice has seen fit to push an out-and-out racist agenda, an agenda not in keeping with the values of the Constitution he is supposed to uphold and protect.

Corbet, Chaskleson, Langa, Mohammed, Ncobo; a . .more

by Lord Percy on July 11 2013, 22:52
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Lawyers
I imagine that the reason we have so many white male lawyers in South Africa is that there are few international opportunities for practitioners of our law system and as a result they cannot take the opportunity to emigrate like so many of our . .more

by Dave on July 12 2013, 08:44
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Try this out.
For the overwhelming majority of Afrikaaners (black South Africans) the wounds and excruciating pain caused by centuries of being subjected to psychological trauma and merciless “beatings” are still fresh and sharp. The poverty, lack of real economic . .more

by @RogueScrivener on July 12 2013, 09:58
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Or try this.
You are the volkskapitalisme (transformation) agents. For this reason, this body, the Broederbond, Beweging vir Christelik-Volkseie Onderwys (BLA,NADEL, SAWLA, IAWJ) and other truly progressive organisations must work together to defeat the resistance to . .more

by @RogueScrivener on July 12 2013, 09:58
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What about this?
I have come to challenge you and other genuinely progressive bodies to resist all efforts geared at the protection English (white) male dominance in the professions and the Bench and the equation of the appointment of Afrikaans (black) and women . .more

by @RogueScrivener on July 12 2013, 10:00
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Now... if you are brave...
Substitute "Jewish" for "White", "German" for "Black" and "Purification" for "Transformation". Uncomfortable, ne?

Yuck.

by @RogueScrivener on July 12 2013, 10:01
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In REAL Democracies......
.....appointed JUDGES stick to LAW & the CONSTITUTION, leaving POLITICS and POLITICISING to the Politicians.

They steer clear of stepping into & becoming a part of the Political Bear Pit and behave & judge impartially accordingly to the LAW and . .more

by John Austin, former Head, Harare Customs & Excise on July 12 2013, 14:06
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Buffoon Buffoon
Everything transformed has turned into a third world dump because skin colour ranks ahead of competency.The justice system, policing, the state health system, the schooling system, Eskom, infrastructure and even the once proud defense force. We rank low . .more

by African on July 14 2013, 19:52
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Conspiracy alert!
The CJ is now doing what he was put there for in the first place. These words are preparing us for some whopping "transformational" changes to the constitution come post 2014 elections. You can see where his loyalties lie and it isnt to the constitution . .more

by Platitudes and Plagiarism on August 19 2013, 10:15
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Once a whites racist always a whites racist ...albeit in different guise
Your blatantly racist black on white rhetoric is just a thinly disguised greed driven exposure of what little limited minds can spout.

Once a thief....always a thief.....GO GET a JOB you little brat wannabe!

by Mike on August 19 2013, 10:44
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